Can I claim Tax Relief on non-Gift Aid donations

Savvy_Sue

Grey_Critic said:

A Scout group may be connected to a church but when registered will have its own charity number and accounts so subs can be gift aided.

They trade in their own right

I agree. My point about their subs was that while National Trust et al have two prices (Gift Aid and non-Gift Aid), the Scouts did not appear to have two rates of subs, but we were still invited to register for Gift Aid. 

Of course, I'm not sure we ever got an answer to the question about whether the church youth camp might be a separate entity to the church, and therefore not able to claim Gift Aid. It's not always easy to tell from outside. 

Grey_Critic

Savvy_Sue said:

Grey_Critic said:

A Scout group may be connected to a church but when registered will have its own charity number and accounts so subs can be gift aided.

They trade in their own right

I agree. My point about their subs was that while National Trust et al have two prices (Gift Aid and non-Gift Aid), the Scouts did not appear to have two rates of subs, but we were still invited to register for Gift Aid. 

Of course, I'm not sure we ever got an answer to the question about whether the church youth camp might be a separate entity to the church, and therefore not able to claim Gift Aid. It's not always easy to tell from outside. 

Gift -Aid is not Tax Deductable. You can only .Gift Aid if you pay tax. - It is a means of giving to charity that actually costs you nothing. Our church has just launched a fund raiser to repair the church clock. They do have a Gift Aid scheme but this is not applicable for this appeal. 

sheramber

Savvy_Sue said:

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Savvy_Sue said:

Grumpy_chap said:

samthelamanite said:

I am new at this so not sure if I'm doing the right thing as I posted this as a comment on another thread ...

I am a pensioner and donate regularly to my church using gift aid. However, I also donate around £200 each year to the church youth camp, but my church tells me that they cannot claim the tax as it's for a specific purpose.

Can I mark this as a charitable donation on my tax return (and thus claim relief)? As far as I am concerned, I do not benefit from the donation, I do not have an interest, the youth who attend camp benefit.
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No, you cannot claim tax relief against donations that were not gift-aided.  For donations that are gift-aided, declaring on the tax return means you pay less higher rate tax.

The comment about the donation not being gift-aidable may be incorrect or a misunderstanding.  If you make a donation and receive something in return, that precludes gift-aid.  For example, if the money for the youth camp secured your child a place on the camp.

That has always been my understanding, and yet ... two examples spring to mind!

1. National Trust and the like encourage you to Gift Aid what can only be seen as an entry fee.
   
   
2. Towards the end of my sons' time in Scouts, we were being encouraged to Gift Aid their subs. 

So I was also surprised at the comment that a donation to one part of the church's work was gift aidable, and yet another was not. 

It will be a while before I see our church treasurer, but if I get the chance I'll ask whether the same applies to us - our youth go away at regular intervals!

You can pay one admission fee without gift aid or a dearer one which attracts gift aid on the extra ‘voluntary’ amount. 

There was no suggestion that the Scout subs were higher if Gift Aided, though...

The admission fee allows you to visit therefore a personal service is provided. 

The additional payment is a donation where you do not get any personal service for it. 

A membership fee does not give any oersonal service. It only gives you membership.