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What's the purpose of this strange return pipe?

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  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,382 Forumite
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    pieroabcd said:
    Yes same size.
    I don't think that it makes any improvement in practice, but having a uniform system with all valves if the same type and in the same position has its advantages (like if you call a plumber they won't have excuses) and if in the future it comes to sell (not planning at all) at least I won't leave behind the disasters that I found when i bought the house two years ago.
    Anyway, no need to drain the system: the valves can be just unscrewed and inverted.
    "Anyway, no need to drain the system: the valves can be just unscrewed and inverted."

    Now, I'm really, really intrigued. 

    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • GDB2222 said:
    pieroabcd said:
    Yes same size.
    I don't think that it makes any improvement in practice, but having a uniform system with all valves if the same type and in the same position has its advantages (like if you call a plumber they won't have excuses) and if in the future it comes to sell (not planning at all) at least I won't leave behind the disasters that I found when i bought the house two years ago.
    Anyway, no need to drain the system: the valves can be just unscrewed and inverted.
    "Anyway, no need to drain the system: the valves can be just unscrewed and inverted."

    Now, I'm really, really intrigued. 

    Post a video?
  • pieroabcd
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    Very easy, but no video sorry .
    After disconnect the nut connecting the radiator to the valve I used the hexagonal key as a plug, to prevent the water from flowing, then I prepared the replacement with an equivalent piece (I had to because the new Trv has 1/2 inch opening, while the old one was 1/2 inside the radiator and 3/4 outside) with a shred of tissue inside to use as plug. Finally I swapped the old connector with the new one. Some water leaked, but very little.
    Some water leaked from the water pipe too, but in the meantime I had already drained some water from another radiator, but definitely not the whole system.
  • WIAWSNB
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    edited 26 August at 9:01AM
    pieroabcd said:
    Very easy, but no video sorry .
    After disconnect the nut connecting the radiator to the valve I used the hexagonal key as a plug, to prevent the water from flowing, then I prepared the replacement with an equivalent piece (I had to because the new Trv has 1/2 inch opening, while the old one was 1/2 inside the radiator and 3/4 outside) with a shred of tissue inside to use as plug. Finally I swapped the old connector with the new one. Some water leaked, but very little.
    Some water leaked from the water pipe too, but in the meantime I had already drained some water from another radiator, but definitely not the whole system.
    Blimey!
    I presume your system is sealed - unvented? 
    It can be very surprising how easy it is to swap parts on such systems without a significant loss of water. I changed two 2-port valves on mine after doing a test - ie, releasing one connection to see what happens! Fully depressurise, of course, but then just get all the bits ready to swap, inc a smear of compound if needed. A couple of towels underneath tobesuretobesure. And, if the worst case happens and you cannot complete the task, then the 'flow' is dead easy to stop using a plug as you suggest. 
    With sealed systems, air needs to get in to the pipework via the same route as any water escapes. For a rad, just shut off the end not being tackled, and drain down the whole rad if you wish. Then you only have a single point where water can get out, and air get in - worst case there is that you have 'glugs'. But if you place yer thumb or even a piece of tape over it, the flow will stop, since air cannot get in. 

  • pieroabcd
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    Yes, it's sealed. Surprising what magic s whiff of air can do!
  • Jumblebumble
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    edited 29 August at 12:30PM
    HHarry said:
    pieroabcd said:
    Ive Just noticed a bolt under the straight part. I imagine that it's the opening valve?
    Yes - they usually have a square head.  A word of caution, once opened they don’t always seal very well if the rubber washer has perished or some grit gets stuck in it.
    I would add to your excelent advice that my plumber constantly has to replace the washers after bodgers  have over tightened the square head
    They dont need much tightening
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