Companies House Registration

TYHybrid

I’m not sure if this is the right forum to advise me?

I am one of a dozen of local artists and makers - a mix of amateurs and semi-professionals.

We are forming a not for profit group called Chew Creatives, run on a voluntary basis. We are not a registered charity. We do not charge a membership fee. We are also a nomadic group, in that we do not have a permanent venue.

The groups’ primary aim is to identify regular opportunities for artists to display their work to the public. This can be in the form of pop-up shops, art events, exhibitions, etc. The artists occasionally sell their artwork, not Chew Creatives.

We are planning a Plein Air art competition, which will be run on an open call basis. In order to cover the costs of venue hire, publicity etc we would like to charge £5 per entrant.

In order to facilitate this we have opened a Community Business Bank Account, with Lloyds Bank.

I am in the process of trying to establish multiple methods of payment for participants. The obvious being bank transfer and cash, but when I tried creating Business Accounts with SumUp and PayPal they both need a companies house registration number.

We are a very small group and I am not sure we need to register with companies house, but this also poses another question - do we need to submit a tax return to HMRC, and who submits it, one of us as individuals or Chew Creatives?

Thanks, Joe

magicmoneyportaloo

An unincorporated association or mutual may be a more suitable structure. What do you think your turnover will be?

Savvy_Sue

I'm trying to link a Zettle card reader to a NatWest Community Account for a perhaps similar organisation. I need a PayPal account to do this, and a company registration number is 'required'. You may find that 0000000 does the trick.

I'm not quite there yet: PayPal is now demanding a scan of my 'business registration document' in order to link the NatWest account to the PayPal account. I'm hoping a bank statement will do the trick, but need to wait for the next one to arrive by post. That's because the bank shows statements I can download with a different address to the one they post them to. 

BTW, I changed from Lloyds when they started charging £5 per month. I don't wholeheartedly recommend NatWest, but the account is free and I can pay cash in at the Post Office. Someone needs to have a personal a/c with NatWest in order to open it.

MyRealNameToo

TYHybrid said:
I am in the process of trying to establish multiple methods of payment for participants. The obvious being bank transfer and cash, but when I tried creating Business Accounts with SumUp and PayPal they both need a companies house registration number.

We are a very small group and I am not sure we need to register with companies house, but this also poses another question - do we need to submit a tax return to HMRC, and who submits it, one of us as individuals or Chew Creatives?

You need to decide on your legal structure and everything else flows from that. 

For SumUp it states on the Club or Society page to select "sole trader" if you arent an incorporated entity and thus can't give a value 

You can remain an unincorporated association but if you start trading it will need to register for corporation tax etc https://www.gov.uk/unincorporated-associations