Civil enforcement PCN and LBC time frame

No1knows

Hi, my husband (RK of daughter's car) received a PCN issued on 28/05/2025  from Civil Enforcement (CE) Daughter was at a pub on 23/05/2025 for just over 15 minutes, picking up a friend who was unwell and as she was not staying (only picking up) did not (know to) register car at the bar. She appealed with the pub, but they are not interested and said we should appeal with CE. Last week, husband received a LBC from CE dated 15/07/2025. Is this legal, to issue LBC six weeks after PCN? Obviously late for any appeals with CE or POPLA as no time whatsoever was given. Any other steps we need to take at this stage/contact CE or send CE the response in post 2 of the sticky thread? Many thanks. 

Coupon-mad

He could give the driver's name & address which means she then gets a PCN in the post and she can appeal.

But appeals are a farce and unlikely to work, so only do the transfer of liability to her if she'd be better then him at defending a court claim. Decide now which of them is better at following our simple process to defend a claim and see it off.  DO NOT PAY.

Please can you show the May, June and July letters with all dates showing? Redact your data, PCN ref, VRM, etc.

I want to show the Government the huge mistake in the draft (pending) statutory Code that didn't adopt the BPA's two reminder letters. Cases are now feeding to aggressive threatograms and court twice as quickly as they ever could before.

sheenas

Talk to the pub owner and maybe they will sort it.

Ralph-y

name and shame the pub .... it may have popped up here before , is it part of a national chain?

No1knows

Ralph-y said:

name and shame the pub .... it may have popped up here before , is it part of a national chain?

Absolutely! Yes, it is one from the Fullers group. The Heroes in Waterlooville. Tbh, after visiting them to get their support in sorting out the issue, i do not think they care...Also, recently reopened after change in management following allegations of....  

Ralph-y

OK try the Fullers group CEO ..... and let him/her know how hesitant  you ... your family ... friends .... are going to be if visits are met with an expense invoice 

Gr1pr

Write to the Organ Grinder,  not the dancing monkey,  because it will be Fullers that contracted with CEL,  not the pub

https://www.fullers.co.uk/contact-us

No1knows

@Coupon-mad, thank you. Here are the two letters we received. Do not recall receiving one in June. Also, daughter is 19, so not quite up to defending a claim in court. Dad is also a registered driver of the car, although not driver at the time of alleged PCN. In this case, should my husband just respond using post 2, asking to put the matter on hold for 30 days and start preparing for LC? Any guidance on that would be great. Could being given mere 6 weeks between PCN and LBC be used in defence/against CE please?

No1knows

Gr1pr said:

Write to the Organ Grinder,  not the dancing monkey,  because it will be Fullers that contracted with CEL,  not the pub

https://www.fullers.co.uk/contact-us

Organ Grinder and dancing monkey..... that they are, lol. Will do, thank you @Gr1pr

Gr1pr

Dad was the non driving Registered Keeper   ( no such thing as a Registered Driver   )

Yes he can delay matters by emailing the LoC response template to CEL , to get extra time to complain to Fullers

The short timescale is not a defence point,  no