Parking charge notice for entering and leaving car park in 7 mins without parking.

DBdfly02

On 14th this month my vehicle was driven into a Parking Eye car park. Driver too busy carefully negotiating the very tight corners around the first level of the car park in a newly acquired electric car to notice any signs. Went down to the lower level stopped briefly but for various reasons decided this was the wrong place to be so turned around and left the car park.

Therefore very shocked to receive a £60.00 Parking Charge Notice for being in the car park for 7 mins.! Surely there should be a grace period for such cases, Where do members think I stand?

Gr1pr

Grace periods occur at the end of an authorised parking session 

The part you are referring to is the CONSIDERATION PERIOD at the entry stage,  which is described in the joint Code of Practice on the BPA website,  so have a read 

Its currently an unregulated industry,  with a consideration period that is typically 5 minutes as a minimum 

A court might believe that 7 minutes is reasonable,  but neither Parking Eye or Popla might agree 

So it may depend on you fighting all the way, meantime,  read the replies in the following thread 

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6619805/parkingeye-pcn-paid-for-5h-parking-overstayed-14-minutes-popla-rejected-what-next#latest

Coupon-mad

Try an appeal then try POPLA and go into detail about why it took a few minutes to navigate the tight corners in this multi-storey car park then (having seen the signs and decided not to stay) repeat the tight-bends route and leave without accepting a contract.

POPLA should accept it.

If not, no paying. Show us the POPLA Decision. I reckon PEye won't contest it.

Car1980

See https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6619934/parked-for-6mins-and-then-left-because-i-had-no-change-still-got-fined-by-parking-eye#latest

No contract.

It may take you 7 or 8 minutes to drive the top floor of a multi-story in extreme cases. There is one like that near me.  Then you are entitled to park up, walk to a sign, read it, decide to accept or decline the contract and do the reverse if you decide to refuse the terms.

The default is to assume you naughtily parked for 10 minutes without paying and scarpered. 

But if they wanted to obtain agreement and form their contract they should make every vehicle stop and agree/decline the terms at the entrance. Like you have to do with a phone app.

But as always, the fairer and more concrete you make things, the less tickets you get to dish out and the less money you make.

James_Poisson

Consideration periods as quoted in the joint COP are stated as minimum i.e. they must not be less than that, if a car park is small 5 minutes may be OK if it is a large multi-story it may be physically impossible to drive in look for a space and decide to leave in 5 minutes.

The best adjudicator of this would be a judge not a profit orientated company that only makes money like this or their members club ATA they belong to.

https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/Sector Code Templates/sectorsingleCodeofPracticeVersion1.1130225.pdf

B.1 The minimum consideration and grace periods listed in Table B.1 must be applied by
parking operators.
NOTE: The consideration period may end earlier than the times prescribed in Annex B
where there is evidence that the driver has accepted the terms and conditions applying
(whether or not they have chosen to read them), which may for example be evidenced by
the driver parking the vehicle and leaving the premises, paying the applicable parking
tariff, or remaining stationary for more than 5 minutes.
B.2 Parking operators must register with the ATA to which they belong the consideration
periods they intend to apply to individual sites before issuing a parking charge

DBdfly02

Gr1pr said:

Grace periods occur at the end of an authorised parking session 

The part you are referring to is the CONSIDERATION PERIOD at the entry stage,  which is described in the joint Code of Practice on the BPA website,  so have a read 

Its currently an unregulated industry,  with a consideration period that is typically 5 minutes as a minimum 

A court might believe that 7 minutes is reasonable,  but neither Parking Eye or Popla might agree 

So it may depend on you fighting all the way, meantime,  read the replies in the following thread 

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6619805/parkingeye-pcn-paid-for-5h-parking-overstayed-14-minutes-popla-rejected-what-next#latest

Thank you for this info.