Age verification

Doshwaster

flaneurs_lobster said:

Can I just verify something? 

Does the legislation now ban all advertising/promotion/links to sites providing VPN services?

I thought this ban only applied to "adult" sites having such links, or is the point now that all sites (other than the BBC) are now "adult"?

About half of the channels on YouTube seems to be sponsored by VPN companies.

Newcad

marcia_ said:

 I clicked a news link in an email yesterday. In the article was an image that was deemed sensitive with a view anyway button. Up pops apple pay for £0.00 so they were going to credit check me leaving a footprint on my credit record no doubt. 

Such card checks do not affect your record. All they do is check/confirm that you have a valid card.

It's actually a £0.01 transaction that they immediately reverse once authorised - it often may not even show up on your card statement.

However for them to do that you have to give the requester your card details.

The idea is the only a person over 18 can have a debit/credit card - which is of course not true.

molerat

Newcad said:

Being honest I think we all know that it's just another attempt to close down the "Adult Entertainment" industry (With the Child Protection aspect being used as a smokescreen. "You can't argue against it, think of the children").

You can see what will happen; the big players will be forced to age verify, the majority of their current users will switch to using smaller providers who don't age verify because they don't care about laws and/or are a portal for malware.

The big players will close down for lack of support so instead of a small number of trusted/estabilished sites we will be back to the 'wild-west' days of 10-15 years ago.

As I said above prepare for a new rash of forum prawn spam.
Or maybe not; perhaps this time they will be more interested in spamming Faceache, Ticky-Tacky, and X?
It's noticiable that none of those seem to be having the age verification requiment imposed on them despite a lot of "possibly harmful to children" content being hosted there.

The adult entertainment industry is not going away, it is way too big a business to stop. With technology and the cash to implement it they will overcome any attempts to stop them, something law enforcement cannot afford to do.  Take the (former) Scottish science teacher making £50K in one month -  the channel likely made another £30K off that one performer - what are they making from the hundreds of thousands of participants worldwide. How do you ban something that is outside your jurisdiction anyway, it would just be like whack-a-mole anyway and you can guarantee the moles will be faster than the hammer.

marcia_

Newcad said:

marcia_ said:

 I clicked a news link in an email yesterday. In the article was an image that was deemed sensitive with a view anyway button. Up pops apple pay for £0.00 so they were going to credit check me leaving a footprint on my credit record no doubt. 

Such card checks do not affect your record. All they do is check/confirm that you have a valid card.

It's actually a £0.01 transaction that they immediately reverse once authorised - it often may not even show up on your card statement.

However for them to do that you have to give the requester your card details.

The idea is the only a person over 18 can have a debit/credit card - which is of course not true.

 You are right about the debit card. It's probably more to check you are on the electoral roll but did think the search would look bad 

B0bbyEwing

Newcad said:

Being honest I think we all know that it's just another attempt to close down the "Adult Entertainment" industry (With the Child Protection aspect being used as a smokescreen. "You can't argue against it, think of the children").

You can see what will happen; the big players will be forced to age verify, the majority of their current users will switch to using smaller providers who don't age verify because they don't care about laws and/or are a portal for malware.

The big players will close down for lack of support so instead of a small number of trusted/estabilished sites we will be back to the 'wild-west' days of 10-15 years ago.

As I said above prepare for a new rash of forum prawn spam.
Or maybe not; perhaps this time they will be more interested in spamming Faceache, Ticky-Tacky, and X?
It's noticiable that none of those seem to be having the age verification requiment imposed on them despite a lot of "possibly harmful to children" content being hosted there.

An attempt to close down adult entertainment or they're playing the long game & this is actually step 1 in an attack on VPNs? 

Time will tell. 

booneruk

Time will prove it's neither. People do like to get over excited about things.

Vitor

The process to secure a false ID explained in The Day of the Jackal will likely still work in Bulgaria, Romania, and possibly Albania.

RumRat

booneruk said:

  

Time will prove it's neither. People do like to get over excited about things.

I think some are just trying to sensationalise it all because they don't have much excitement in their lives.....

MSE_JC

Hi all,

This thread is starting to veer into non-MoneySaving territory so I'm afraid the team will be closing it. Before they do, a few users have brought up the Forum in relation to the Online Safety Act so I thought I'd pop on to try and clarify our situation.

As it stands, there are currently no plans to roll out age verification on the MSE Forum. Age verification in the OSA is primarily aimed at sites that allow the sorts of content covered in the regulation. Our Forum doesn't allow those types of content, we have measures in place to deal with them and regularly review those measures.

Rest assured MSE has been preparing for the Online Safety Act for quite a while, working with our Legal and Compliance teams to make sure we meet the requirements.