HGV Driving without due care and attention

Hoenir

Wifeoftrucker said:

He knows the road it happened and date and cannot think of anything that happened.

He's highly concerned he will loose his job. 

If nothing happened. Why the anxiety. 

None of our business. Better to be honest with you though. 

Grey_Critic

Mildly_Miffed said:

Grey_Critic said:

If he was driving an HGV then there will be a Tachograph record of the journey

Which just shows speed at any given time, not location - let alone whether he was driving with due care.

I was involved from the start of Tachographs and unless things have changed there was a great deal of information that could be gathered if properly analysed. 

TooManyPoints

Which probably won't help much if the allegation is, say, overtaking a cyclist too closely (which is popular with serial complainants like "Cycling Mikey")..

forgotmyname

Grey_Critic said:

I was involved from the start of Tachographs and unless things have changed there was a great deal of information that could be gathered if properly analysed. 

Mostly the old paper discs were not inspected that well, usually just checking for exceeding 56mph and the breaks unless they were prompted
to look closer.

We had the company that inspected them give a little tutorial and the policxe handed them a disc to check and it came out clean but
when they looked properly they noticed the vehicle had not exceeded 50mph yet the distance covered was in excess of 50 miles
every hour.

Turns out they had put an old flasher relay unit into the power supply cable so the tacho was always in an on/off state so it recorded
the time slower but it did not tally to the daily mileage driven which was not checked.

Grey_Critic

One client right at the start had a tacho fitted to a reps car to see how it worked. Just told him to fir a new desk every day and save the old disct. The discs were then analysed for the client and it was explained just whet he was looking at. Surprise , surprise they all showed driving from 6.00PM onwards. Turned out he was running a taxi service in his company car.

Got a few tales from the early days - one where the Police chased a driver down the road whilst he was shredding discs.

paul_c123

Grey_Critic said:

One client right at the start had a tacho fitted to a reps car to see how it worked. Just told him to fir a new desk every day and save the old disct. The discs were then analysed for the client and it was explained just whet he was looking at. Surprise , surprise they all showed driving from 6.00PM onwards. Turned out he was running a taxi service in his company car.

Got a few tales from the early days - one where the Police chased a driver down the road whilst he was shredding discs.

You know that digital tachos became mandatory 19 years ago?

Grey_Critic

***You know that digital tachos became mandatory 19 years ago?***

I did say I was involved right at the start. There was a lot of mistrust amongst opertors and the company that had one fitted to a car did so to try and understand things. He had a large fleet and it was going to cost hime thousands which was the reason for him doing so. 

forgotmyname

Grey_Critic said:

Got a few tales from the early days - one where the Police chased a driver down the road whilst he was shredding discs.

Older guy who had the hand written logs before the paper discs said it was called posting them.  You open the window a small
amount and post them.  Never had the need though, the firm I worked for were fairly good.

Nasqueron

TooManyPoints said:

Which probably won't help much if the allegation is, say, overtaking a cyclist too closely (which is popular with serial complainants like "Cycling Mikey")..

Frankly I'd take the reporting of illegal and dangerous passing a vulnerable road user because of impatience as a lot more serious than attacking the person reporting it. Mikey reporting cars illegally driving on the wrong side of the road to save a few seconds in a queue being dismissed as "serial complainant" is silly

TooManyPoints

I'm not attacking "Cycling Mikey". But he is clearly a serial complainant and many of his complaints are based on overtaking too closely. I've seen three or four of his clips and his complaint was justified in all that I have seen.

If that is the case with this OP, the vehicle being fitted with a tachograph won't help and that's what I was trying to point out. However, it hasn't stopped a conversation developing into the niceties of tachographs (which equally does not help).