License Application voluntary surrender - medical

MEM62

itsthelittlethings said:

MEM62 said:

itsthelittlethings said:

MEM62 said:

itsthelittlethings said:

Out of interest, what was the alternative to surrendering your license voluntarily? Once you had been advised not to drive you couldn’t drive, I don’t see what else you could do but surrender your license?

I could have just not driven for the six months and said nothing. The risk there is that, if my doctor had informed DVLA or they had otherwise become aware, they would have revoked my license - which would have made getting it back even more complicated.  In addition, if your license is revoked you cannot drive while waiting for your application for it to be returned is processed.  Voluntarily surrender it and you can drive as soon as the six months is up whether you license has been retuned or not.  (But has it turns out, you cannot renew your insurance policy so am I really any better off?) 

onomatopoeia99 said:

Get your MP on the case. When I had a problem with the DVLA they were able to get action that I was not.

Wrote to him and have not even had the courtesy of a reply.  Too busy cooking up plans for tax increases with his mates to look after his constituents.  

I think you are obliged to notify DVLA if you have a notifiable medical condition. You can’t just decide how long you take off yourself.

I know what I was obliged to do. The point I was making in reply to @it@itsthelittlethings comment was that had I chosen not to then on one hand there is was the risk of revocation but on the other DVLA would not have been in a position to mess me around.  

You may only get short licences from now on so do be prepared to go through this process again regularly.

Stop trying to cheer me up.    

LightFlare

itsthelittlethings said:

chrisw said:

itsthelittlethings said:

MEM62 said:

itsthelittlethings said:

MEM62 said:

itsthelittlethings said:

Out of interest, what was the alternative to surrendering your license voluntarily? Once you had been advised not to drive you couldn’t drive, I don’t see what else you could do but surrender your license?

I could have just not driven for the six months and said nothing. The risk there is that, if my doctor had informed DVLA or they had otherwise become aware, they would have revoked my license - which would have made getting it back even more complicated.  In addition, if your license is revoked you cannot drive while waiting for your application for it to be returned is processed.  Voluntarily surrender it and you can drive as soon as the six months is up whether you license has been retuned or not.  (But has it turns out, you cannot renew your insurance policy so am I really any better off?) 

onomatopoeia99 said:

Get your MP on the case. When I had a problem with the DVLA they were able to get action that I was not.

Wrote to him and have not even had the courtesy of a reply.  Too busy cooking up plans for tax increases with his mates to look after his constituents.  I think you are obliged to notify DVLA if you have a notifiable medical condition. You can’t just decide how long you take off yourself.

I know what I was obliged to do. The point I was making in reply to @it@itsthelittlethings comment was that had I chosen not to then on one hand there is was the risk of revocation but on the other DVLA would not have been in a position to mess me around.  

It would have been illegal and after six months you would have been driving illegally. You may only get short licences from now on so do be prepared to go through this process again regularly.

Why is it illegal? The doctor told me to put my licence in a drawer for 3 months and not drive. 3 months later he gave me the all clear to resume driving. I don't see the issue unless it's a long term ongoing event.

If it’s a notifiable condition you have to tell the DVLA.

I think the point is, is that there is no mechanism in place where medical professionals notify th DVLA in some circumstances 
Its largely done on a “trust” basis where a patient is informed they aren’t to drive and that they need to inform the DVLA - but there is no checking mechanism in place to check that they have indeed done so.

For example:

someone has a seizure- they are told not to drive for x months and to inform the DVLA.

They dont drive for the specified period - but also do t inform the DVLA. They are then given a medical all clear and resume driving.

DVLA never got involved 

* just pointing out that it’s an easy process to avoid with little to no chance of ever being detected

itsthelittlethings

LightFlare said:

itsthelittlethings said:

chrisw said:

itsthelittlethings said:

MEM62 said:

itsthelittlethings said:

MEM62 said:

itsthelittlethings said:

Out of interest, what was the alternative to surrendering your license voluntarily? Once you had been advised not to drive you couldn’t drive, I don’t see what else you could do but surrender your license?

I could have just not driven for the six months and said nothing. The risk there is that, if my doctor had informed DVLA or they had otherwise become aware, they would have revoked my license - which would have made getting it back even more complicated.  In addition, if your license is revoked you cannot drive while waiting for your application for it to be returned is processed.  Voluntarily surrender it and you can drive as soon as the six months is up whether you license has been retuned or not.  (But has it turns out, you cannot renew your insurance policy so am I really any better off?) 

onomatopoeia99 said:

Get your MP on the case. When I had a problem with the DVLA they were able to get action that I was not.

Wrote to him and have not even had the courtesy of a reply.  Too busy cooking up plans for tax increases with his mates to look after his constituents.  I think you are obliged to notify DVLA if you have a notifiable medical condition. You can’t just decide how long you take off yourself.

I know what I was obliged to do. The point I was making in reply to @it@itsthelittlethings comment was that had I chosen not to then on one hand there is was the risk of revocation but on the other DVLA would not have been in a position to mess me around.  

It would have been illegal and after six months you would have been driving illegally. You may only get short licences from now on so do be prepared to go through this process again regularly.

Why is it illegal? The doctor told me to put my licence in a drawer for 3 months and not drive. 3 months later he gave me the all clear to resume driving. I don't see the issue unless it's a long term ongoing event.

If it’s a notifiable condition you have to tell the DVLA.

I think the point is, is that there is no mechanism in place where medical professionals notify th DVLA in some circumstances 
Its largely done on a “trust” basis where a patient is informed they aren’t to drive and that they need to inform the DVLA - but there is no checking mechanism in place to check that they have indeed done so.

For example:

someone has a seizure- they are told not to drive for x months and to inform the DVLA.

They dont drive for the specified period - but also do t inform the DVLA. They are then given a medical all clear and resume driving.

DVLA never got involved 

* just pointing out that it’s an easy process to avoid with little to no chance of ever being detected

Not to harp on about this too much but I suspect that if you had a seizure and didn’t notify the DVLA but just took a year (I think it usually is) off driving, your insurance would then be invalid.

Medical conditions are unpredictable unfortunately and when you say little to no chance of ever being detected, I’m not sure I share your faith.

LightFlare

3 months for a stroke (I think)
6 months for seizure 

Insurance - you may be correct, depending on the T+Cs although if the policy has a specific named driver on would that mean they also can’t drive the car even if the main is illegible for 3-6months ?? 

I dunno - would have to ask the Ins co I guess