Which AV do you use?

Vitor

- I wonder if others use third party security for their mobile devices too.  - 

Subscribers to Microsoft 365 Family can drop Microsoft Defender and Family Safety apps onto mobis

flaneurs_lobster

Vitor said:

- I wonder if others use third party security for their mobile devices too.  - 

Subscribers to Microsoft 365 Family can drop Microsoft Defender and Family Safety apps onto mobis

BT Broadband gets you a couple of licences for Norton AV, I've got that running on a couple of mobiles because free - wouldn't bother otherwise.

Doshwaster

ChilliBob said:

Blimey, quite conclusive. See back in the day anything bundled in, like Defender, was shown to be terrible! Interesting!

Yes, time have changed. Back in the day, even with proper virus software, I would get regular infections. With just Windows Defender I can't remember the last one I had.

These days the dangers of being online mainly come from phishing and scams rather than viruses. 

ChilliBob

Doshwaster said:

ChilliBob said:

Blimey, quite conclusive. See back in the day anything bundled in, like Defender, was shown to be terrible! Interesting!

Yes, time have changed. Back in the day, even with proper virus software, I would get regular infections. With just Windows Defender I can't remember the last one I had.

These days the dangers of being online mainly come from phishing and scams rather than viruses. 

Very true. I do sometimes get Avast blocking urls as it thinks they're malicious, that's about it so far. But hey, as you say times have changed - I mean, who uses BitTorrent and the like now etc? 

Newcad

Does anyone still image to a local, disconnected, drive rather than the cloud?

Yes; anyone who wants to be sure that their backup security is under their own control.

Anyone who has seen claims of "totally secure" get hacked.

The cloud may be handy, and these days fast enough - but nothing beats knowing that you have a weekly/daily backup image sat on a disconnected drive that no ransomware etc. could possibly get to.

If backing up to the cloud then I'd suggest that you do it to at least two different places.

booneruk

Newcad said:

Does anyone still image to a local, disconnected, drive rather than the cloud?

Yes; anyone who wants to be sure that their backup security is under their own control.

Anyone who has seen claims of "totally secure" get hacked.

The cloud may be handy, and these days fast enough - but nothing beats knowing that you have a weekly/daily backup image sat on a disconnected drive that no ransomware etc. could possibly get to.

If backing up to the cloud then I'd suggest that you do it to at least two different places.

I have a two drive NAS which mirror each other, and a folder on there which is backed up to the cloud.

I wouldn't use any cloud provider claiming they are 'totally secure' though. Who are these providers? That would be complete fibbing, nothing's totally secure (including your local backup in case of a fire). 

Vitor

The stats don't favour keeping backups only at home. Annual risk of data loss:

Using OneDrive -  ~0.0001%

Single HDD backup at home - 1% to 3%
Two HDDs kept at home - 0.5% to 1.6%
Two HDDs, one kept off site -  0.01–0.09%
OneDrive + local HDD - probably <0.0001%

flaneurs_lobster

Vitor said:

The stats don't favour keeping backups only at home. Annual risk of data loss:

Using OneDrive -  ~0.0001%

Single HDD backup at home - 1% to 3%
Two HDDs kept at home - 0.5% to 1.6%
Two HDDs, one kept off site -  0.01–0.09%
OneDrive + local HDD - probably <0.0001%

Stats from Microsoft?

Vitor

0.0001% per year for irrecoverable file loss based on Google and Microsoft whitepapers on cloud reliability.

ChilliBob

I guess having something like one drive or Google drive does mean at least one point of redundancy - your local machine, and the cloud, not to mention the obvious redundancy the cloud players will have. If you've used multiple devices, like mobiles, or other laptops, may also have further redundancy.

I mean, let's not forget, if you use the likes of Microsoft, Google or Amazon, you're using corporate level stuff - yes your tier isn't subject to the same policies, but still, it's a far cry from the cloud providers of say 10 years ago.

I used to use something called Synch Back a while ago to synchronize from one hdd to another, use of that along with a cloud provider could be interesting

Then you start to get into locating in different places etc, but st that point, you hand to query if your own local policies are better than that of Google and the like

Reminds me, I did used to do this:
Create on say One Drive.
Use synch back to synchronize to Google Drive, 
Use synch back to synchronosr to an external hdd. 
That felt quite robust.