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Renting A Double Room With Shared Facilities In Scotland.

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  • Al_Ross
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    Time to sell up then.

    I am due to retire in February, with heart disease, kidney and liver disease I don't need this extra hassle.


  • ReadySteadyPop
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    artyboy said:
    Maybe explain to her that her actions are likely to drive away 'reasonable' tenants, and she could well end up with a less reasonable one...
    Or she could have the flat to herself for a long period of time, which is probably the game plan. The threat of an "unreasonable tenant" won`t work, all that might happen is that she moves out and the landlord is left with a bad tenant, possibly a non-payer!
  • ReadySteadyPop
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    Emmia said:
    Al_Ross said:
    What I'm reading on google is that someone renting a room with share facilities it is only entry to their room that would need 24 hr notice to enter and the shared areas would not.

    Would that be correct or incorrrect?
    What's the risk she denies you entry by changing the locks? 24hrs lets her change them back if she's done this...
    Have you seen the price of locksmiths? Someone renting a room just isn`t going to do this, for the hassle factor let alone the cost! I think the tenant plans to just get the flat to themselves, they moved in with a long established tenant but most people won`t take a rental with one other stranger if that person is coming off as "weird" or "difficult", even two sociable easy going persons could struggle with someone they don`t really know in that kind of environment over a period of time.
  • ReadySteadyPop
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    RAS said:
    Al_Ross said:
    "Hello ----,
    What happened with today's flat viewing?

    Also, i just would like to clarify- - from now on, I don't give permission for any viewings or entries while I'm not home.

    Pleas make sure any access is arranged with at least 24 hours' written notice. and include who's coming and the reason for the visit.

    Thanks for understanding and respecting this and going forward"
    The fact that she's Polish may be vaguely relevant. She may be getting advice from other Polish speakers? Many of whom rent whole properties. Which may explain why she is spouting the rules for whole properties and doesn't realise that they don't apply to her situation?

    So reply

    " The person booked did not turn up, about which I can do nothing.

    You have the tenancy of a double room with shared facilities. This means that you are entitled only to notice of any visit to your double room.

    You have no right to notice regarding any visit to share facilities or to the other bedroom in the house.  You seem to be confusing the rules with those regarding occupancy of a whole property?

    I'd suggest you take legal advice"

    Any kick off, S21.
    Leaving the landlord with two empty rooms (after a drawn out eviction process?) The problem here for the landlord is that only two rooms requires people who can get along or be out a lot, that narrows down the pool of potential tenants because most people want to spend time in their home and relax with hopefully good company for flat-mates, much better to rent the whole flat to a couple/individual/family and let them pick up the tab for council tax.
  • ReadySteadyPop
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    Al_Ross said:
    I am registered Landlord, all declared and paying tax on profit. Being letting out as rooms with shared facilities now for 10 years, various tenants have come and gone no issuies whatsoever until this Woman. I will tell her I have a new tenant moving in, but my worry is either she refuses them entry or makes living unbearable for them once they have moved in.
    Then they will just move out. I doubt the next ten years will be like the last ten, visa rules are changing in very extreme ways, renting rooms is unlikely to be as easy as it has been going forward, I think you would be better renting the whole flat and letting tenants pay their own council tax.
  • sheramber
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    Emmia said:
    Al_Ross said:
    What I'm reading on google is that someone renting a room with share facilities it is only entry to their room that would need 24 hr notice to enter and the shared areas would not.

    Would that be correct or incorrrect?
    What's the risk she denies you entry by changing the locks? 24hrs lets her change them back if she's done this...
    Have you seen the price of locksmiths? Someone renting a room just isn`t going to do this, for the hassle factor let alone the cost! I think the tenant plans to just get the flat to themselves, they moved in with a long established tenant but most people won`t take a rental with one other stranger if that person is coming off as "weird" or "difficult", even two sociable easy going persons could struggle with someone they don`t really know in that kind of environment over a period of time.
    Whdo you need a locksmith? 

    YOu can change the barrel if it is a pvc door lock 

    if not a barrel lock, you can buy a new lock in any DIY store . measure the original, buy same size, unscrew original and screw on new one.
  • Emmia
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    Emmia said:
    Al_Ross said:
    What I'm reading on google is that someone renting a room with share facilities it is only entry to their room that would need 24 hr notice to enter and the shared areas would not.

    Would that be correct or incorrrect?
    What's the risk she denies you entry by changing the locks? 24hrs lets her change them back if she's done this...
    Have you seen the price of locksmiths? Someone renting a room just isn`t going to do this, for the hassle factor let alone the cost! I think the tenant plans to just get the flat to themselves, they moved in with a long established tenant but most people won`t take a rental with one other stranger if that person is coming off as "weird" or "difficult", even two sociable easy going persons could struggle with someone they don`t really know in that kind of environment over a period of time.
    Changing a lock is very easy, and locks themselves can be inexpensive. No need for a locksmith.
  • Al_Ross
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    Thanks for some great replies there. Unfortunately, I can’t change anything in the rental agreement now as advised.

    She is getting every single bill paid by me council tax included, so to make this work at all for me,  I need two tenants in,  paying rent.

     

      As I said I have another young woman moving in next weekend, just started her first job and her first time living in a Flat Share.  I will advise tenant one via email mid-week someone has let the other room. My worry is that she will try to obstruct tenant two moving in by saying she can't come in if she's not going to be in (which I believe she can't do). 

     

      Or she makes life very difficult for the new tenant and she quickly leaves.

     

       If it doesn't work my only option I can see is selling up. Give her, her 84 days noticed (served via the correct form) and hopes she looks for and gets a new place and moves out without an eviction.

     



  • _Penny_Dreadful
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    Al_Ross said:

    Time to sell up then.

    I am due to retire in February, with heart disease, kidney and liver disease I don't need this extra hassle.


    I’m sorry to hear about your health issues. Given what you’ve shared perhaps it is the right time to sell up so there’s one less spinning plate to manage when you retire. 
  • ReadySteadyPop
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    Al_Ross said:

    Thanks for some great replies there. Unfortunately, I can’t change anything in the rental agreement now as advised.

    She is getting every single bill paid by me council tax included, so to make this work at all for me,  I need two tenants in,  paying rent.

     

      As I said I have another young woman moving in next weekend, just started her first job and her first time living in a Flat Share.  I will advise tenant one via email mid-week someone has let the other room. My worry is that she will try to obstruct tenant two moving in by saying she can't come in if she's not going to be in (which I believe she can't do). 

     

      Or she makes life very difficult for the new tenant and she quickly leaves.

     

       If it doesn't work my only option I can see is selling up. Give her, her 84 days noticed (served via the correct form) and hopes she looks for and gets a new place and moves out without an eviction.

     



    Not worth the risk of bad/flaky tenants in my opinion, sell up, or rent it as a  2 bed flat with tenant paying their own bills, what are rental yields like in your area?
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