We're aware that some users are experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. See the Community Noticeboard for more info. Thank you for your patience.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Printed will integrity

Options
reheat
reheat Posts: 2,294 Forumite
Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
edited 12 July at 12:07PM in Deaths, funerals & probate
My wife and I are finally getting round to doing our wills, and have been looking at Which?. Having noticed you can either print it off yourself, or get it printed and bound from them, a question occurs to me.

If someone's will is being read after their death, and it is simply a load of separately printed sheets in an envelope or something, how can there be any confidence that one or more sheets have not been modified and replaced since the will was written? How can the integrity of such a will be trusted? Presumably not every page has to be signed and witnessed?

Thanks in advance.
Favours are returned ... Trust is earned
Reality is an illusion ... don't knock it
There's a fine line between faith and arrogance ... Heaven only knows where the line is
Being like everyone else when it's right, is as important as being different when it's right
The interpretation you're most likely to believe, is the one you most want to believe
«1

Comments

  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 35,454 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    This has caused a number of issues for people who've posted here claiming probate. 

    Simply print making sure to format for page numbers and staple together before signing and witnessing. If you use the HMCTS for storage no-one in the family can remove them, and make sure your executors are told not to take them out to photocopy etc.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • Keep_pedalling
    Keep_pedalling Posts: 20,719 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    A will is one of the most important documents you will ever make, and you should really not be penny pinching on making it. What’s the point of saving a few hundred now that could cost you intended beneficiaries thousands if you don’t get it right of miss off a vital ‘what if’ clause. 

    Find a local solicitor to make them. 
  • reheat
    reheat Posts: 2,294 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    A will is one of the most important documents you will ever make, and you should really not be penny pinching on making it. What’s the point of saving a few hundred now that could cost you intended beneficiaries thousands if you don’t get it right of miss off a vital ‘what if’ clause. 

    Find a local solicitor to make them. 
    Understood. Which I why I was thinking to use the Which? premium, which reckons it all gets reviewed for errors.
    Favours are returned ... Trust is earned
    Reality is an illusion ... don't knock it
    There's a fine line between faith and arrogance ... Heaven only knows where the line is
    Being like everyone else when it's right, is as important as being different when it's right
    The interpretation you're most likely to believe, is the one you most want to believe
  • reheat
    reheat Posts: 2,294 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    edited 12 July at 12:53PM
    RAS said:
    This has caused a number of issues for people who've posted here claiming probate. 

    Simply print making sure to format for page numbers and staple together before signing and witnessing. If you use the HMCTS for storage no-one in the family can remove them, and make sure your executors are told not to take them out to photocopy etc.
    Yes, looks a sensible option. Seems a bit archaic you have to pay the £23 fee by cheque or postal order though!
    Favours are returned ... Trust is earned
    Reality is an illusion ... don't knock it
    There's a fine line between faith and arrogance ... Heaven only knows where the line is
    Being like everyone else when it's right, is as important as being different when it's right
    The interpretation you're most likely to believe, is the one you most want to believe
  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 35,454 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Agree with K_p, get a local solicitor to write your wills. They'll ask what if questions and pick up on issues that computer don't spot. We've seen some really shoddy ones causing problems here.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • Keep_pedalling
    Keep_pedalling Posts: 20,719 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    reheat said:
    A will is one of the most important documents you will ever make, and you should really not be penny pinching on making it. What’s the point of saving a few hundred now that could cost you intended beneficiaries thousands if you don’t get it right of miss off a vital ‘what if’ clause. 

    Find a local solicitor to make them. 
    Understood. Which I why I was thinking to use the Which? premium, which reckons it all gets reviewed for errors.
    Revised for errors yes, but no face to face meeting where a solicitor will go though all the what if situations you have not thought about. I am pretty sure the Which service is unregulated, so if they do !!!!!!-up you beneficiaries have no come back.
  • reheat
    reheat Posts: 2,294 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker

    Find a local solicitor to make them. 
    What are the implications of using a local solicitor if you later move out of the area?
    Favours are returned ... Trust is earned
    Reality is an illusion ... don't knock it
    There's a fine line between faith and arrogance ... Heaven only knows where the line is
    Being like everyone else when it's right, is as important as being different when it's right
    The interpretation you're most likely to believe, is the one you most want to believe
  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 35,454 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Nothing. You are not going to be leaving the will with them or appoint them as executors. But it does mean you can collect together the donor(s) and witnesses for signature somewhere that has some credibility if there are queries later.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • badmemory
    badmemory Posts: 9,516 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I knew exactly what I wanted my will to say.  Then I saw a solicitor & got the what if questions.  I am sure that what I originally wanted will happen but what if!  It just never occurred to me that the next generation could die before I do.  Those what if questions are very important & they are dealing with them all the time.
  • cherry76
    cherry76 Posts: 1,083 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts
    reheat said:
    My wife and I are finally getting round to doing our wills, and have been looking at Which?. Having noticed you can either print it off yourself, or get it printed and bound from them, a question occurs to me.

    If someone's will is being read after their death, and it is simply a load of separately printed sheets in an envelope or something, how can there be any confidence that one or more sheets have not been modified and replaced since the will was written? How can the integrity of such a will be trusted? Presumably not every page has to be signed and witnessed?

    Thanks in advance.
    Make sure the will is properly binded. Just obtained probate for dad and there was a query regarding will was drafted in single pages. Mum had to confirm that the will was drafted in single pages and no other pages were added or removed. The will pages were also numbered. I would get it printed and bounded by the, if you want to follow tgat route.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.8K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.8K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 598.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.8K Life & Family
  • 257K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.