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Pension offsetting is this correct?

Hi Folks,

I am currently going through a divorce and we have agree to offset my pension against some of the other equity (house, cash etc). I will give broad figures to illustrate my question and any and all advice or comments would be great received. 

House equity £358,000
Cash £70,000

Using my latest pension benefits statement and the Galbraith Tables for DB pension sharing (better/more accurate for DB pensions that CETV) the amount my stb ex wife should receive is £75000 after adjusted for tax (20%). No adjustment has been made for Utility.

We have agreed that my wife will keep the house and take a small mortgage of (58K)

She therefore will have £300K in equity from the divorce.

I will have the £70K cash and the £58K from her (her mortgage amount) add this to the off set pension amount of £75K and I will have taken £203K from the divorce. 

My question is:
Is this correct as even when I add on the pension offset amount of £75K I am still £93K less than her?

Should the calculation not be that instead of passing her the full £75K offset amount I should be passing her half of it as half from me added to hers would be the full £75K.

I will illustrate in the example below what I mean.
We have £2000 that needs split but I need my wife to have 100 more than me after the split. If I give her £100 then she will actually have £200 more. £1000+£100 = £1100 and £1000-£100 = £900. Therefore in order for her to have £100 more than me after the split it should in fact be £50 that I give. £1000+£50 = £1050 and £1000-£50 = £950 therefore £100 more as intended.

Is my thinking wrong here when applied to the pension offsetting?

Thank you

Comments

  • DullGreyGuy
    DullGreyGuy Posts: 18,613 Forumite
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    No, you should add the full pension value not just what you would have given her. 
  • Silvertabby
    Silvertabby Posts: 10,187 Forumite
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    edited 8 July at 9:50AM
    Will the Divorce Court accept your DIY Galbraith calculation?

    A divorce CETV calculation (Form E) is much more complex than just a final figure.  And DullGreyGuy is right - the FULL (pre tax) value of your pension is classed as a marital asset, and this is the figure that should be used in any offsetting agreement.

    Note: Am assuming English/Welsh law.  May be more complicated if you are in Scotland.
  • Cobbler_tone
    Cobbler_tone Posts: 1,091 Forumite
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    I guess my situation was similar. On the D81 the CETV and my shares were on my side. The equity and her tiny pension on the other. They were treated equally. I paid the mortgage off, plus whacked her a lump sum. The pension wasn't touched. On paper I got more but in reality at the point of divorce I got a lot less, due to the value of the CETV. That's the thing, due to the nature of some divorces taking years, the CETV is just a moment in time.
    Ultimately I was content with the outcome. I am miles better off but that is down to her personal choices of not bothering maximise (or even increase) her earnings potential. No more free meal tickets!!
    Good luck.
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