Euro car parks PCN

wazza89

Hi all looking for some advice. Recently received a PCN from euro car parks for parking in a pub/restaurant car park. I didn’t use the services of the restaurant I used it to visit a neighbouring business. The visit time was 45mins. 

The reason given is ‘vehicle was not authorised to park’ however I didn’t notice any parking machines or signage to advise parking had to be paid for. 

Looking for any advice on how to approach this. I have been through this process before with UKPN and following the advice on this group achieved a win! Hoping for the same. Thanks in advance 

Gr1pr

Study the first post in the newbies sticky thread in announcements 

If you were to win, it would be based on poor and inadequate signage on that private property,  if true,  so you would need pictures of the signage,  and lack of

However,  I would expect that there was signage on site and that the driver needed to register the vehicle inside the pub, typically using an Ipad at the bar or reception 

The days are long gone where you could park at one business to go to another business or address close by.   Cameras are everywhere,  as demonstrated by all the TV programmes 

wazza89

Thanks for the reply. So are you saying if signage is in place and adequate and I missed it then I should concede and pay the PCN? 

Le_Kirk

This forum doesn't advise you to pay all the time (as @coupon-mad is fond of saying) the industry remains unregulated.  Follow the advice in the first post of NEWBIE sticky as advised by @Gr1pr.

Gr1pr

No, I definitely didn't mention payment 

My point is that the crux of the argument is over signage,  your defence seems to state that no signs were seen, but their counter argument will be that there are signs that can be seen,  probably with maps and pictures and a driver is expected to look for signs, and comply or leave promptly , plus not misuse the car park just because its convenient for other businesses in the area

You have the task of convincing ECP,  Popla and a possible judge in court that your claims are true, inadequate and poor signage,  whilst they have the task to prove that there are adequate signs 

I am sure that you missed it,  that is why you received an NTK PCN letter,  captured by ANPR with no permission sought inside the business recorded by the system,  something I have done numerous times as a valid customer in similar premises 

Generally speaking,  pub car parks are for the benefit of the staff and patrons of the pub, plus tradesman working at the premises,  or deliveries etc

The parking company are carrying out the wishes of the business or landlord or landowner 

What I don't understand is why any driver thinks they can get away with fly parking or any other breach or offence in this camera heavy society   !  So my main point was that it's rare to get away with anything these days,  big brother is watching ., I definitely would not do this for fear of the cameras and £100 invoices for the alleged breach of the parking contract on that private property