Drop Off Manchester Airport PCN

Willis75

Hi,

Could someone please help with a response to APCOA?

Registered keeper of a vehicle just received  PCN  addressed to Company Secretary for a driver of said vehicle driving through ‘drop off zone’ at Manchester airport.

The register keeper does not  have a company.

Speaking to driver, they accidentally got in the the wrong lane looking for ‘Express pick up and drop off zone’ and apparently drove straight through a ‘drop off zone’ without stopping 1 minute before immediately arriving at the correct area where they paid the pick up charge of £6.20 for a 3 minute stay for picking up the arriving passenger. APCOA requestes an extra £5 for this driver error. (£11.20 for a 3 minute pick up 🤬)

The notice ‘invites’ registered keeper to pay or name the driver. I am going to do neither as it was a pure mistake by the driver owing to poor signage as to which lane to take.

The PNC does not mention  PofF 2012 in regard to keeper liability.

Thanks

Gr1pr

Read the recent cases on here,  especially the replies by doubledotcom 

No keeper liability on airport land,  so Pofa2012 schedule 4 doesn't apply

Use the template response they gave other victims,  appealing as keeper to Apcoa  ( no blabbing about who was driving   )

Umkomaas

Please read the following thread (equally applies to MAN) and use the suggested letter from that. 

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6500170/group-thread-for-heathrow-and-gatwick-drop-off-pcns/p1

Willis75

Could you please explain point 3: ‘The parking charge’ etc, as I do not understand the meaning. Thanks

Umkomaas

Willis75 said:

Could you please explain point 3: ‘The parking charge’ etc, as I do not understand the meaning. Thanks

How visible was the 'contract' (signage with prices and penalty risks) on the drive-through?  If the driver missed it in the melee at typical airport road spaghetti and car flow, then it cannot be said to be agreed. Once you're into the one-way funnel, you can't decide to turn around and not accept the contract. 

But, APCOA won't challenge you on that, so just simply send the letter and await a very swift cancellation. Don't overthink this.

Willis75

Umkomaas said:

Willis75 said:

Could you please explain point 3: ‘The parking charge’ etc, as I do not understand the meaning. Thanks

How visible was the 'contract' (signage with prices and penalty risks) on the drive-through?  If the driver missed it in the melee at typical airport road spaghetti and car flow, then it cannot be said to be agreed. Once you're into the one-way funnel, you can't decide to turn around and not accept the contract. 

But, APCOA won't challenge you on that, so just simply send the letter and await a very swift cancellation. Don't overthink this.

Thanks. I am told there were no signs prior to entering the drop off and if indeed any were in the drop off, you have already committed, apparently to a charge and t &c’s by entering in order to read them!!! What the hell🤬. Now I understand it, thanks.

Gr1pr

Read the recent reply and template by member doubledotcom,  it explains it too

Willis75

Gr1pr said:

Read the recent reply and template by member doubledotcom,  it explains it too

I can’t appear to find it. Do you perhaps have a link or the date of doubledotcom’s reply, please?

Gr1pr

Same advice as in this thread 

Same advice as all the others on here recently 

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6607818/apcoa-pcn-manchester-airport-drop-off/p1

Appeal,  but no blabbing about who was driving or about the incident itself 

Nellymoser

Consider adding your signature to the 708 who are asking the Govt to:

Ban Drop-off charges at airports

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/724381