Does this exist? 900mm wide electric hob with 2 x 13amp plugs (UK)

EvaKatz

Our 900 x 500mm, electric hob (that came with the house) had to be disposed of, and I've been looking for a replacement. It ran off 3 x 13amp plug sockets rather than a 32amp oven socket, and I'm hoping to replace like-for-like.

I've scoured the internet, but can only find 900mm wide ones that wire into a 32amp socket. Does anyone know of one that has 2 or 3 standard 13amp plugs? I think it's pretty unusual, so struggling to find anything.

fyi- it's in a island, and even if we could get the correct cable over there, the double oven (on a perimeter wall) is using the only 32amp socket in the kitchen.

Either induction or ceramic is fine. We're selling the house, so want to put in something decent, but not one that costs thousands.

Any recommendations (or ideas!) would be gratefully received.

PRDMKT

Sorry, you're suggesting that the hob had 3 individual plug sockets for power? That seems highly irregular,

Something like this ? https://ao.com/product/pug61raa5b-bosch-series-2-induction-hob-black-92955-39.aspx?ef_id=CjwKCAjw9uPCBhATEiwABHN9KyQ-BB0Sjso-9qi20Blp70ev0G5rOhRC3S4YvLBbQFwXd2dunrSn6RoCrJcQAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!8149!3!!!!x!!&&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=shopping%20-%20mda%20-%20mid%20level%20hobs%20-%20performance%20max%7Cshopping%20-%20mda%20-%20mid%20level%20hobs%20-%20performance%20max&utm_term=shopping%7CPUG61RAA5B_BK&utm_content=%7Cpaidpla&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19855483088&gbraid=0AAAAADmq139fdiivNg4h-IxzOH1UlK-cX&gclid=CjwKCAjw9uPCBhATEiwABHN9KyQ-BB0Sjso-9qi20Blp70ev0G5rOhRC3S4YvLBbQFwXd2dunrSn6RoCrJcQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Product summary says Please note: this model has a Power Management Function. Some induction hobs can be plugged in at the wall, rather than needing an electrician to hard-wire it. If you choose to plug in, the Power Management Function will limit the power to each zone. For example, if you have a 13 amp connection, the heat levels across all four zones cannot add up to more than 12. So, if one zone is on level 8 and you turn another zone to level 7 (8+7=15), the first zone will automatically be reduced to level 5 (5+7=12).

grumpy_codger

By "32amp (oven) socket" do you mean a cooker plate?

WIAWSNB

Hi Eva.
Do you know the make and model of the old hob? I'd really like to check that out.

DullGreyGuy

PRDMKT said:

Sorry, you're suggesting that the hob had 3 individual plug sockets for power? That seems highly irregular,

Something like this ? https://ao.com/product/pug61raa5b-bosch-series-2-induction-hob-black-92955-39.aspx

Sounds odd to me too and surprised it would be ok to use given all three are likely to be going into the same socket/ring

That one is only 60cm wide whereas the OP wants 90cm meaning at least one more ring. Doubt anyone is selling something so handicapped as a 5/6 zone induction hob that can run off 13amp

EvaKatz said:

Our 900 x 500mm, electric hob (that came with the house) had to be disposed of, and I've been looking for a replacement. It ran off 3 x 13amp plug sockets rather than a 32amp oven socket, and I'm hoping to replace like-for-like.

I've scoured the internet, but can only find 900mm wide ones that wire into a 32amp socket. Does anyone know of one that has 2 or 3 standard 13amp plugs? I think it's pretty unusual, so struggling to find anything.

fyi- it's in a island, and even if we could get the correct cable over there, the double oven (on a perimeter wall) is using the only 32amp socket in the kitchen.

Either induction or ceramic is fine. We're selling the house, so want to put in something decent, but not one that costs thousands.

Any recommendations (or ideas!) would be gratefully received.

Why not just leave the one thats there? Or buy a secondhand version of it? 

There are 30cm two hob units so wonder if you could effectively build your own? You'd probably need some form of frame to support them though. Miele (not a recommendation for you) has its SmartLine range which are intended so people can mix and match between different units and build up whatever setup you want and sell a support bar if you want multiple units in the same cutout. 

WIAWSNB

Eva, it might be worth getting a sparky in to quote for running a new cable to this hob. It prob won't be as much as your fear, and then you can fit a proper 900mm induction hob, which you can pick up from around £250.
Ie, do it properly, and make it an asset.
You'll most likely recoup this outlay when you sell, and some.
Oh, and do not go ceramic - induction only. I said 'asset'

grumpy_codger

DullGreyGuy said:

PRDMKT said:

Sorry, you're suggesting that the hob had 3 individual plug sockets for power? That seems highly irregular,

Something like this ? https://ao.com/product/pug61raa5b-bosch-series-2-induction-hob-black-92955-39.aspx

Sounds odd to me too and surprised it would be ok to use given all three are likely to be going into the same socket/ring

Can it be three-phase domestic power supply with sockets connected to different phases?  I've seen an old cooker with a three-phase plug where hotplates could be wired to different phases if needed (to distribute big power between phases and to not overload single phase).

Section62

WIAWSNB said:

Eva, it might be worth getting a sparky in to quote for running a new cable to this hob. It prob won't be as much as your fear, and then you can fit a proper 900mm induction hob, which you can pick up from around £250.
Ie, do it properly, and make it an asset.
You'll most likely recoup this outlay when you sell, and some.
Oh, and do not go ceramic - induction only. I said 'asset'

"fyi- it's in a island"

If there's usable ducting to the island perhaps not.  But otherwise....

Section62

grumpy_codger said:

DullGreyGuy said:

PRDMKT said:

Sorry, you're suggesting that the hob had 3 individual plug sockets for power? That seems highly irregular,

Something like this ? https://ao.com/product/pug61raa5b-bosch-series-2-induction-hob-black-92955-39.aspx

Sounds odd to me too and surprised it would be ok to use given all three are likely to be going into the same socket/ring

Can it be three-phase domestic power supply with sockets connected to different phases?

If "13amp plugs" means BS1363 type then I don't think that would be allowed.  The final ring circuit could be on one of the three supply phases, but it would be dangerous to have one appliance supplied by two (or more) BS1363 plugs connected across more than one phase - also bearing in mind BS1363 plugs must be fused.  It would mean having a phase-phase voltage present in the appliance... I could be wrong but I don't think a manufacturer would do something like that for a domestic appliance - so it would have to be some kind of bodge-up involving two or more appliances physically (but not electrically) connected.

I'd also wonder whether someone willing to do a multi-phase bodge-up of a single appliance would have the slightest concern about possible overloads in the first place?

grumpy_codger said:

I've seen an old cooker with a three-phase plug where hotplates could be wired to different phases if needed (to distribute big power between phases and to not overload single phase).

Again, I could be wrong because I've never delved inside a 3-phase cooker, but wouldn't 3-phase industrial-type stuff usually be set up to operate phase-phase anyway?

grumpy_codger

Don't know about UK, but in Europe they do seem to exist - https://www.angloinfo.com/poitou-charentes/discussions/home-garden/oven-hob-and-the-three-phase-electricity-supply. So this can be some EU hob adapted for use in UK. Personally I don't see any danger in ~380V present inside a cooker (vs. 240V).

DullGreyGuy

Multi-phase supplies are much more common in certain parts of Europe than they are here. The likes of Germany also run on 16amp plugs rather than the 13amp here. 

3 Phase cookers exist here, mainly in commercial environments where 3 phase supplies are also more common. The OP however only wants a hob not a cooker. They also want a unit that simply has 2-3 13amp plugs to run it rather than a 3 phase supply, they've already said its to be a not too expensive solution as they are selling and they can't get a new higher amperage supply to it in which case they probably cannot get a 3 phase supply to it either let alone want to invest in rewiring the whole house to deal with 3 phase.