Family living abroad returning home without job or money

Ordinary_Yet_Unique

I think on MSE you can only make suggestions. Giving 'advice' is frowned upon. I always use the phrases suggest and support.
I do not believe I was making any judgements just giving an opinion.

Muttleythefrog

Ordinary_Yet_Unique said:

I think on MSE you can only make suggestions. Giving 'advice' is frowned upon. I always use the phrases suggest and support.
I do not believe I was making any judgements just giving an opinion.

"MSE at times can be a little too concerned with rights rather than responsibilities and obligations IMHO"

For this particular board it's clear responsibilities and obligations (other than with regarding the claiming of benefits lawfully such as by updating DWP with changed details as signed up to) is off limits. It is only concerned with rights.
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/365935/its-about-helping-people-get-their-entitlement-not-about-benefits-policy

"my point is they also have to have a plan to help themselves too." - they don't unless you're referring to particular conditions of claiming specific benefits such as UC and work search tasks. Call it opinion or judgement... makes no difference... it ain't relevant to entitlement unless as mentioned it forms part of a commitment in claiming a benefit.

The benefit advice to the two people involved in the theoretical car crash would essentially be the same or similar... opinion and judgement probably very different and entirely pointless to board.. that'd be for a judge to deliver in sentencing.

Ordinary_Yet_Unique

Muttleythefrog said:

Ordinary_Yet_Unique said:

I think on MSE you can only make suggestions. Giving 'advice' is frowned upon. I always use the phrases suggest and support.
I do not believe I was making any judgements just giving an opinion.

"MSE at times can be a little too concerned with rights rather than responsibilities and obligations IMHO"

For this particular board it's clear responsibilities and obligations (other than with regarding the claiming of benefits lawfully such as by updating DWP with changed details as signed up to) is off limits. It is only concerned with rights.
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/365935/its-about-helping-people-get-their-entitlement-not-about-benefits-policy

"my point is they also have to have a plan to help themselves too." - they don't unless you're referring to particular conditions of claiming specific benefits such as UC and work search tasks.

Thank you. I am fully aware of what constitutes a 'general opinion'.
And I was referring to what they need to do.

EnPointe

Voyager2002 said:

RAS said:

SIL might want to check a youtube video about an elderly UK citizen who lost her residency rights having lived in SA for many decades. Airport/border subject maybe Gatwick or Heathrow? 

Good news is that she's got a decade to improve her pension situation in the UK as well as buying back years.

As an added note, she may need to establish residency before using the NHS as well. 

Someone who is a British Citizen cannot lose their residency rights.

they  however will need to prove habitual residency to acces the NHS, Social care, Benefits  and  social Housing