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Winter Fuel - Means Test
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All the official information so far is saying it will be implemented through the tax system. Which means any reclaimation of the WFP for winter 25/26 will be based on your income for the 25/26 tax year, as calculated after the end of the tax year in April 2026.MoJo said:Can anyone explain how the winter fuel payment will be means tested?
Will it be based on income for 2024/25 or expected income for 2025/26 - or will it be income over another period?N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill Coop member.Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
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We have an explainer here: https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2025/06/winter-fuel-payment-criteria-confirmed/
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Does anyone know how 'household' is determined?Is it for example based on electoral roll or the address that HMRC have for an individual?
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So, they pay out to all state pensioners depending on their age and then claw back if your 25/26 income exceeds 35k? (Sorry if I'm being dim)QrizB said:
All the official information so far is saying it will be implemented through the tax system. Which means any reclaimation of the WFP for winter 25/26 will be based on your income for the 25/26 tax year, as calculated after the end of the tax year in April 2026.MoJo said:Can anyone explain how the winter fuel payment will be means tested?
Will it be based on income for 2024/25 or expected income for 2025/26 - or will it be income over another period?0 -
Thanks - I've read that but couldn't see how they did the means test. @QrizB has clarified it.MSE_James said:We have an explainer here: https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2025/06/winter-fuel-payment-criteria-confirmed/0 -
MoJo said:
So, they pay out to all state pensioners depending on their age and then claw back if your 25/26 income exceeds 35k? (Sorry if I'm being dim)QrizB said:
All the official information so far is saying it will be implemented through the tax system. Which means any reclaimation of the WFP for winter 25/26 will be based on your income for the 25/26 tax year, as calculated after the end of the tax year in April 2026.MoJo said:Can anyone explain how the winter fuel payment will be means tested?
Will it be based on income for 2024/25 or expected income for 2025/26 - or will it be income over another period?That seems to be the intention, yes, although you'll be able to "opt out" if you don't want to receive the WFP in the first place (and then won't have it taken back by HMRC).It's smilar to Child Benefit and HICBC.N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill Coop member.Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
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MWT said:Does anyone know how 'household' is determined?Is it for example based on electoral roll or the address that HMRC have for an individual?Why would they be different ?Both can and should be updated every move. Via HMRC website or personal tax account login - and gov uk websites respectively - or post etcMy guess - and only my guess would be tax address - if you have had dealings with HMRC - and updated it and maybe electoral if not.And any mismatch more likely to impact amount paid - than how taxman will recover via as they have reportedly stated via personal tax codes for straightforward cases - or via annaul simple assesments / Self assessment in more complex tax situations.For electoral role councils also send update requests to occupiers annually - its a legal requirement for those update requests - for all eligible adults - or soon to be adults iirc - to be registered at their normal resident address - certainly in England.But yet millions reportedly are not.I don't deal with the DWP for myself by post - I check their NI and state forecast via my personal tax account login - so not sure what address they hold - I assume HMRCs - as not a state pensioner or on benefits - as a govt dept - do they use HMRC address records too.After all - how did they contact you to send the "do you want to claim state pension" letter.
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QrizB said:MoJo said:
So, they pay out to all state pensioners depending on their age and then claw back if your 25/26 income exceeds 35k? (Sorry if I'm being dim)QrizB said:
All the official information so far is saying it will be implemented through the tax system. Which means any reclaimation of the WFP for winter 25/26 will be based on your income for the 25/26 tax year, as calculated after the end of the tax year in April 2026.MoJo said:Can anyone explain how the winter fuel payment will be means tested?
Will it be based on income for 2024/25 or expected income for 2025/26 - or will it be income over another period?That seems to be the intention, yes, although you'll be able to "opt out" if you don't want to receive the WFP in the first place (and then won't have it taken back by HMRC).It's smilar to Child Benefit and HICBC.The chances are it will all be automatic - and handled via tax codes - the current tax years tax codes I believe in many cases - being updated and sent to say private/employer pensions - based on predicted year end income / recent reported actual taxable income.See MSE link for what is and what isnt taxable income - or gov uk for a more complete list of taxable (inc state pension) and tax free benefits - like PIP, Attendance allowance, War widows pensions etc1 -
QrizB said:That seems to be the intention, yes, although you'll be able to "opt out" if you don't want to receive the WFP in the first place (and then won't have it taken back by HMRC).It's smilar to Child Benefit and HICBC.
Without the now £20k taper though.0 -
It’s based on the Pension payments (DWP) and tied to HMRC nothing to do with the electoral register.4.8kWp 12x400W Longhi 9.6 kWh battery Giv-hy 5.0 Inverter, WSW facing Essex . Aint no sunshine ☀️ Octopus gas fixed dec 24 @ 5.74 tracker again+ Octopus Intelligent Flux leccy0
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