Where to buy americano coffee sachets?

Mnoee

DullGreyGuy said:

Mnoee said:

There's always 0 espresso shots in instant coffee. They're different types of coffee. 

Why?

Instant coffee in principle is just coffee thats been made and then dried to leave a powder residue. Whilst most instant coffee base is brewed using a process similar to a cafetière  why do you think if they made expresso that it wouldnt dry into a powder in a similar drying process @Mnoee? 

Is it going to be as good as properly made coffee etc is a separate question 

Instant coffee isn't espresso because espresso is a style of making coffee? You absolutely can turn espresso into instant coffee, I've watched James Hoffmann do it. Like you could turn chips into smash, you'd freeze dry and blend them, like they do to make instant coffee. 

When you rehydrate smash you get mash, even if it once was chips. When you rehydrate instant coffee, you get instant coffee, even if it was once espresso. 

Like Matt says, you need pressure to make espresso, like you need hot oil to make chips. 

DullGreyGuy

MattMattMattUK said:

DullGreyGuy said:

Mnoee said:

There's always 0 espresso shots in instant coffee. They're different types of coffee. 

Why?

Instant coffee in principle is just coffee thats been made and then dried to leave a powder residue. Whilst most instant coffee base is brewed using a process similar to a cafetière  why do you think if they made expresso that it wouldnt dry into a powder in a similar drying process @ Mnoee? 

Is it going to be as good as properly made coffee etc is a separate question 

Part of the process of making an espresso, rather than a moka pot, a Cafetiere/French Press, a filter etc. is the high pressure which extracts the oils from the beans and creates the crema, with instant that is not there and cannot be replicated, although some claim to with additional foaming agents added. 

So one cannot have "instant espresso", one can have "small strong coffee", some people will see those things as the same, some will view them as similar, others will not.

But thats the point @mattmattmattUK, they state they make an expresso and then dehydrate it so it has been through the high pressure extraction process

MattMattMattUK

DullGreyGuy said:

MattMattMattUK said:

DullGreyGuy said:

Mnoee said:

There's always 0 espresso shots in instant coffee. They're different types of coffee. 

Why?

Instant coffee in principle is just coffee thats been made and then dried to leave a powder residue. Whilst most instant coffee base is brewed using a process similar to a cafetière  why do you think if they made expresso that it wouldnt dry into a powder in a similar drying process @ Mnoee? 

Is it going to be as good as properly made coffee etc is a separate question 

Part of the process of making an espresso, rather than a moka pot, a Cafetiere/French Press, a filter etc. is the high pressure which extracts the oils from the beans and creates the crema, with instant that is not there and cannot be replicated, although some claim to with additional foaming agents added. 

So one cannot have "instant espresso", one can have "small strong coffee", some people will see those things as the same, some will view them as similar, others will not.

But thats the point @ mattmattmattUK, they state they make an expresso and then dehydrate it so it has been through the high pressure extraction process

The chip example above, or something like a proper chicken breast cut off a chicken versus a reformed chicken breast made from meat pressure washed off the carcass, then reformed by bonding it together into some awful approximation of a chicken breast.

An "instant espresso" is the same type of awful approximation. The drying/freeze drying process does not work with oils as oils cannot be dehydrated so most of them are removed, a small amount is re-added to the end product but often that is not oils from coffee, some even contain palm oils. Another issue is the lack of texture and mouth feel, there is either no crema or it is faked so it looks like one, usually involving something that make the product foam when water is added, but that is not a crema, just a vague attempt at approximating one. 

Yes it is coffee, yes some of it may have been espresso at one point, but it no longer is espresso although it is still coffee. 

blackstar

jon81uk said:

I assume you are just looking for the higher quality instant coffee, there isn't such thing as instant made with two shots of espresso.

Some possibilities are
Nescafe Azera Americano Instant Coffee 140g | Sainsbury's
Kenco Millicano Americano Instant Coffee 100g | Sainsbury's

Thanks all.

I tried the instant coffee to try and get the 2 expresso shots but I could tell there was no expresso shots in it. So I bought a starbucks tall and could for certain tell the 2 expresso shots.

Im sure there's no expresso shots in an instant coffee. 

So what can I do? Is there some kind of coffee machine I can buy to make for example a capachino etc and select 1 or 2 expresso shots to go into it and then how do I get the expressos and coffee etc? Need something really simple and easy to use. Any links appreciated. 

I have found these two and have watched a few YouTube videos on them both and read as much as there is to read about them but cant find the answers Im looking for.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nespresso-ENV150-B-Limited-Machine-milliliters/dp/B07VQT5DC8

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TASSIMO-Drinks-Coffee-Machine-TAS3102GB/dp/B081CYDZC1#averageCustomerReviewsAnchor

Need to know how or if I can select 1 or 2 expresso shots

Also looks like on the videos they put in these little cartons of milk and coffee that are specific for that coffee making. 
Thing is I cant do dairy and need oat milk cartons or similar. So not sure if they had little oat milk pods?

I was reading that different coffee pods have different amounts of caffeine etc. So because I really like the amount of caffeine and the 2 shots if expresso in a tall Starbucks coffee, can anyone tell me if I can buy starbuxks coffee pods that contain 2 expresso shots and if they have the same amount of caffeine in the shop made coffees? And if I can use starbuxks pods in any coffee machine like the two above.?

Basically I just want to replicate a tall oat milk caramel machiato blonde roast (tall comes with two shots)
Im not sure the caffine content in this drink, I read its 75mg but it doesnt say if thats with a blonde roast or not but then I read that its 

Tall

12 oz (350 mL)

270 mg

 In a standard black Blonde Roast coffee from Starbucks:

https://cafely.com/blogs/info/how-much-caffeine-starbucks-coffee

So.im a but confused 

Anyone advice appreciated 

Mnoee

Okay, so a tall oat milk caramel machiatto is a very different drink to an americano! 

You need: vanilla syrup, steamed oat milk, with aeration (foaminess) ideally between a latte and a cappuccino, espresso and caramel sauce, added in that order. It's a very complex drink and making an equivalent at home is not easy without a proper espresso machine with a steam wand. 

From what I've managed to Google, although nespresso make 'oatly' pods, it appears to be just coffee they recommend for oatly, which they suggest you 'steam' in a different gadget. 

https://www.nespresso.com/dk/en/opskrifter/oatly-latte

When googling I did find oat milk latte sachets - Kenco do them, nescafe ones have been discontinued I think. Two of them with vanilla syrup and caramel sauce would be what I'd make for the closest at home drink.

If you're going to start buying machines and pods it'll be far far cheaper in the long run to buy an espresso machine and learn to steam milk and pour shots. It's faff, but if you're devoted to making that exact drink, it's the only way! 

75mg of caffeine sounds correct for two blonde espresso shots. 270mg will be for a tall filter coffee made with blonde roast.

Emmia

I was going to suggest a pod machine, using the original shape Nespresso capsules*, which you can buy from a huge range of places... Extra caffeine options are also available but if you want a maciatto then you'll also need a milk frother, plus some caramel syrup.

I have an Opal one machine which will do espresso/strong coffee and you can set the size of the servings. Currently I have the short button set to 50ml to let me make espresso martinis! The middle button is 100ml as that's the size of my le creuset espresso mugs, and the large button is 200ml mainly as that's the amount of water needed for the second stage of the cleaning cycle! But this doesn't have a wand. I can use a wand to froth milk, but as I mostly drink espresso/black coffee it's not something I sought on my machine.

Edit: Opal one 
https://www.pactcoffee.com/coffee-machines/opal-pod-machine-and-pods - this is frequently on offer, usually from places that also sell coffee pods, but so it's well worth a good hunt around for a deal. I think this is currently about the cheapest.

My in-laws have an electric milk frother machine as they like a maciatto type coffee and that works well for them, with their pod machine 

Edit: I think this is the one my in-laws have

Dualit milk frother

https://www.johnlewis.com/dualit-milk-frother-max-black/p112587290?s_share=jlappdroid

The cheapest place for pods (as long as you're willing to put a larger order in) is Kaffe Kapslen. They have a vast array of different pods including high caffeine options. I notice they have caramel flavoured pods.

https://www.kaffekapslen.co.uk/nespresso/pods-for-nespresso.html

*Don't buy the current Nespresso machines that use the bigger capsules as these are still proprietary to Nespresso, so the price per capsule is much higher.

Mnoee

The Starbucks caramel machiatto uses vanilla syrup, not caramel. The only caramel is the sauce lattice on top. I've worked there! A tall also only has a single espresso, unless you've specifically asked for a double. Same for a tall latte and cappuccino, but not Americano, they're two. 

A Starbucks caramel machiatto is very different to an espresso machiatto, it's a long drink more like a latte. It's got a very misleading name for what's basically a vanilla latte with a bit of sauce on!

Emmia

Mnoee said:

The Starbucks caramel machiatto uses vanilla syrup, not caramel. The only caramel is the sauce lattice on top. I've worked there! A tall also only has a single espresso, unless you've specifically asked for a double. Same for a tall latte and cappuccino, but not Americano, they're two. 

A Starbucks caramel machiatto is very different to an espresso machiatto, it's a long drink more like a latte. It's got a very misleading name for what's basically a vanilla latte with a bit of sauce on!

You still can't create it from a sachet though!

A pod machine and an electric frother are probably the easiest way of creating something close to what the OP wants - if they want to go technical, there's a whole world of machines out there.

Mnoee

I don't think it's wrong to suggest trying some £2 sachets to see if they're close enough before splashing out on a £90 gadget (plus a nespresso machine!). It won't be a 'proper' caramel machiatto but things like using vanilla and not caramel might be the 'espresso' taste the OP is missing! I don't know what they're tried to make with instant Americano powder already, if they're chucking caramel in, it'd taste totally wrong.

It seems silly to spend more than the cost of an espresso machine on various gadgets to make a minimum wage 'unskilled' job slightly easier, but hey ho. There's definitely a market for them.

All I'm trying to do is help OP find a coffee drink they like, I'm less worried about authenticity because whatever they end up doing, I can still use my bean to cup machine!