Incorrect measurement of my land on neighbours planning application

ComicGeek

Surely the intention is to show that the new proposed building would be parallel to the boundary line (to maximise the size of the building), rather than being parallel to the adjacent buildings (which planning officers normally prefer for 'neatness').

But probably not important, unless the actual plot width is less than the 18m currently assumed (but hopefully measured!). If it's 17.8m wide, then that 200mm difference suddenly becomes much more important.    

pebblebeach8

WIAWSNB said:

pebblebeach8 said:

WIAWSNB said:

I'm going to guess that their red boundary lines represent their best judgement/belief of where the true boundaries lie, and not necessarily where the current fences are located. Fences can be a crude indicator.

What do you know about your current fence? How long has it been there for? How much of this can you evidence? 

It has been like this since I moved in 23 years ago (2002), it is my neighbours fence and it has been replaced several times, but always in the same place.  Also I put my back gate in when I moved in and the measurement on the plan would indicate I wouldn't have been able to do this (current plan measurement means it is 2/3 way through my gate).  Also I measured the gap and it is 1000mm (my side wall to current fence).  Found my plans (dated 1971, when my bungalow was built) and it looks like  there should be 3ft gap between my wall the neighbours boundary.   

That's all helpful stuff.
You are waiting for a response from Planning?

Yes, rang this morning, but it can take 2 working days for him to ring me back.

pebblebeach8

ComicGeek said:

Surely the intention is to show that the new proposed building would be parallel to the boundary line (to maximise the size of the building), rather than being parallel to the adjacent buildings (which planning officers normally prefer for 'neatness').

But probably not important, unless the actual plot width is less than the 18m currently assumed (but hopefully measured!). If it's 17.8m wide, then that 200mm difference suddenly becomes much more important.    

According to the plans the current plot is 18m wide, so each new plot will be 9m.  It is not really clear from the photo, but all of houses/plots go at a slight angle, although properties look straight when looking from front.  They also appear to have the distance wrong with the house the other side as it says 1622, but it is only around 1066 (I measured this)..  I will just have to wait for the planning man to ring and hopefully he can give me some advice.  According to my measurements it is slightly wider at the front of my property than the back using the current fence as the boundary line, but not as narrow as they say

Section62

pebblebeach8 said:

ComicGeek said:

Surely the intention is to show that the new proposed building would be parallel to the boundary line (to maximise the size of the building), rather than being parallel to the adjacent buildings (which planning officers normally prefer for 'neatness').

But probably not important, unless the actual plot width is less than the 18m currently assumed (but hopefully measured!). If it's 17.8m wide, then that 200mm difference suddenly becomes much more important.    

....I will just have to wait for the planning man to ring and hopefully he can give me some advice.  According to my measurements it is slightly wider at the front of my property than the back using the current fence as the boundary line, but not as narrow as they say

You might want to think carefully about bringing this to the attention of the planners.  From their point of view the most important thing is probably the spacing between the houses, so the gap stops it appearing to be a terrace.  This minimum spacing would affect how close to the existing fence the developer is allowed to build.

If the developer has undermeasured then the effect would be to increase the spacing between the houses - if there's 200mm more between the fence and your house then potentially the new building could end up being 200mm closer to you than currently proposed.

I'm not sure there is a problem here unless the developer intends to claim the fence is in the wrong place and wants to move it onto what is currently 'your' land.  I can't see how the figure on the planning drawing would impact on your ability to claim the fence is in the correct position - but if you think this could be a problem then you may need to get professional legal advice about your options.

pebblebeach8

Section62 said:

pebblebeach8 said:

ComicGeek said:

Surely the intention is to show that the new proposed building would be parallel to the boundary line (to maximise the size of the building), rather than being parallel to the adjacent buildings (which planning officers normally prefer for 'neatness').

But probably not important, unless the actual plot width is less than the 18m currently assumed (but hopefully measured!). If it's 17.8m wide, then that 200mm difference suddenly becomes much more important.    

....I will just have to wait for the planning man to ring and hopefully he can give me some advice.  According to my measurements it is slightly wider at the front of my property than the back using the current fence as the boundary line, but not as narrow as they say

You might want to think carefully about bringing this to the attention of the planners.  From their point of view the most important thing is probably the spacing between the houses, so the gap stops it appearing to be a terrace.  This minimum spacing would affect how close to the existing fence the developer is allowed to build.

If the developer has undermeasured then the effect would be to increase the spacing between the houses - if there's 200mm more between the fence and your house then potentially the new building could end up being 200mm closer to you than currently proposed.

I'm not sure there is a problem here unless the developer intends to claim the fence is in the wrong place and wants to move it onto what is currently 'your' land.  I can't see how the figure on the planning drawing would impact on your ability to claim the fence is in the correct position - but if you think this could be a problem then you may need to get professional legal advice about your options.

Thanks, it is ironic really as looking at the new plans, I wouldn't have had a problem with them, though they will cut a lot of light out down the side of my property as I have 2 windows and my front door down that side, but whoever has measured has not done it right.  

FreeBear

Section62 said: I'm not sure there is a problem here unless the developer intends to claim the fence is in the wrong place and wants to move it onto what is currently 'your' land.  I can't see how the figure on the planning drawing would impact on your ability to claim the fence is in the correct position - but if you think this could be a problem then you may need to get professional legal advice about your options.

Might pay to apply for a determined boundary* with the Land Registry. The fee is only £90, but you'd need to pay for a survey from an accredited surveyor (no idea what they would charge)..

*) https://www.gov.uk/your-property-boundaries/apply-exact-boundary-determined