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Finding an annuity

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  • dunroving
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    This has been a very useful thread for me (plus the other recent annuities threads I have found on the MSE forum).

    Re: the IFA charges vs broker commission comparison, is this any different for a fixed term annuity than a lifetime annuity? I'm currently planning to use ca. £110,000 SIPP to purchase a 5-year level annuity of £6,000, with a maturity value at the end that would be similar to the initial capital. I won't muddy the waters of this thread by going into the explanation of why, but I wondered if there is an argument to be made for IFA vs broker in this scenario (fixed term annuity rather than lifetime annuity)?
    (Nearly) dunroving
  • westv
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    I see the HL annuity quote calculator seems to be broken at the moment. It only seems to be supplying L&G figures.
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    dunroving said:
    This has been a very useful thread for me (plus the other recent annuities threads I have found on the MSE forum).

    Re: the IFA charges vs broker commission comparison, is this any different for a fixed term annuity than a lifetime annuity? I'm currently planning to use ca. £110,000 SIPP to purchase a 5-year level annuity of £6,000, with a maturity value at the end that would be similar to the initial capital. I won't muddy the waters of this thread by going into the explanation of why, but I wondered if there is an argument to be made for IFA vs broker in this scenario (fixed term annuity rather than lifetime annuity)?

    I think the same considerations apply.  I bought an 8yr FT annuity for my wife with 125k (inc 25% TFC) . I used Retirement Line to buy with L&G, level, no lump sum, guarantee for full term. RL took commission of £1400. Couldn't find an IFA to take it on in time - they would have got slightly better rate but not much in it
  • FIREDreamer
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    westv said:
    I see the HL annuity quote calculator seems to be broken at the moment. It only seems to be supplying L&G figures.
    Other companies were probably repricing.
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    westv said:
    I see the HL annuity quote calculator seems to be broken at the moment. It only seems to be supplying L&G figures.
    Other companies were probably repricing.
    Maybe but I doubt it. It's been about 4 days now.
    For me, it's not a big deal as I am just curious atm.
  • FIREDreamer
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    westv said:
    westv said:
    I see the HL annuity quote calculator seems to be broken at the moment. It only seems to be supplying L&G figures.
    Other companies were probably repricing.
    Maybe but I doubt it. It's been about 4 days now.
    For me, it's not a big deal as I am just curious atm.
    Seem to be zero again apart from L&G. Was fine yesterday so very odd.


  • westv
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    westv said:
    westv said:
    I see the HL annuity quote calculator seems to be broken at the moment. It only seems to be supplying L&G figures.
    Other companies were probably repricing.
    Maybe but I doubt it. It's been about 4 days now.
    For me, it's not a big deal as I am just curious atm.
    Seem to be zero again apart from L&G. Was fine yesterday so very odd.


    Showing zeros for me yesterday and day befors.
  • FIREDreamer
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    @westv i am getting quotes from all providers there now.
  • Time4T_Accounts
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    edited 11 July 2025 at 10:29PM
    Coming back to this for the sake of completeness.  I met the IFA, who very came across as very knowledgeable.  During discussions he teased out that I have potential to tip  into 40% this, with the result that I’d be better off not receiving annuity income In those circumstances.

    So, it’s back to the portfolio drawing board in the short term …
  • FIREDreamer
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    edited 12 July 2025 at 10:08AM
    Coming back to this for the sake of completeness.  I met the IFA, who very came across as very knowledgeable.  During discussions he teased out that I have potential to tip  into 40% this, with the result that I’d be better off not receiving annuity income In those circumstances.

    So, it’s back to the portfolio drawing board in the short term …
    Is paying 40% income tax on some of your annuity income such a bad thing? It means you’ve won the game.

    EDIT: even if not working, you can still pay £3,600 pa gross back into a pension to gain extra PCLS and extract the rest at 20% tax if tax thresholds rise in the future.

    I was happy buying a second annuity despite this, because it will lose 40% in inheritance tax on death post 2027 anyway.

    I don’t know if there is inheritance tax due on the annuity payments made after death during the remaining guarantee period if my spouse has died as well. Or just income tax.
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