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Sold house. Moving Abroad. Where to keep ££?
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I fear you may be missing the point![Deleted User] said:
I thought Revolut would be more convenient since their user interface is geared towards international type of spending. Im not sure they are equal to Lloyds as far as if they go insolvent or something collapses the company. Monzo is protected by the UK more so than Revolut, or thats what i read.eskbanker said:
Why would Revolut and Monzo be any different from other FCA-regulated institutions such as Lloyds, all of whom are subject to Know Your Customer regulations, etc?[Deleted User] said:
OK. Yes i was going to just leave a few pounds in the UK LLoyds for misc. bills if they pop up. But Revolut & Monzo shouldnt care if i am transient, should they? Wise too? Where do people who dont claim a residence anywhere keep their coins? When i get a sailboat im likely going to be all over the place.eskbanker said:
UK financial institutions need to know where to find you (and not just by phone/email!), so if you're unable to provide a new address, and your non-resident status is detected, then anticipate issues, hence the recommendation to make alternative arrangements rather than expecting to continue with your UK accounts....[Deleted User] said:
Well, i wont have a UK address. I have UK/US passports so i expect i will reside in the states for the long term. I will be closing a couple of my mothers accounts also, and i may just get a bank cheque and hold onto it until i decide where to put it. I can open a US bank account and deposit it there later on. I am expecting the £ to gain on the $ over the next year, so im in no hurry to convert the £. I have had Lloyds for 15 years but i dont think it will be convenient trying to manage money with them when im all over the place. Im just timid having £200K sitting in online bank accounts with no brick & mortar roots. Channel Islands? Is there some umbrella protection?Hoenir said:What address will you use in the UK?
Might be worth opening an account in the Channel Islands with one of the major banks.
The inherent risk is that any UK based bank might decide to terminate their relationship with you at any time as a non Resident. Closing your account would no doubt be problematic.
Convenience and user interfaces really don't form part of any discussion about whether a financial institution is required to comply with KYC regulations, and being 'geared towards international type of spending' is likewise irrelevant.
I wasn't making any comment about the outcome of any insolvency, which again has no relevance to KYC, but it is true that, unlike Lloyds and Monzo, Revolut doesn't offer FSCS protection, which would be seen by most as a reason not to use them for depositing significant sums.3 -
I see. Well i have all 3 accounts. Basically i want a place thats secure for my money until im ready to use it for any significant purchase. Car, Boat, etc. Im anticipating the pound to strengthen against the dollar over the next few months. And a 1c gain, if i hold sterling, is quite a decent amount. So i suppose Monzo would be fine for a larger sum of savings, and just have Revolut for smaller everyday spending abroad. I just have not used either Revolut or Monzo as i only got them a few months ago as a future form of overseas spending.eskbanker said:
I fear you may be missing the point![Deleted User] said:
I thought Revolut would be more convenient since their user interface is geared towards international type of spending. Im not sure they are equal to Lloyds as far as if they go insolvent or something collapses the company. Monzo is protected by the UK more so than Revolut, or thats what i read.eskbanker said:
Why would Revolut and Monzo be any different from other FCA-regulated institutions such as Lloyds, all of whom are subject to Know Your Customer regulations, etc?[Deleted User] said:
OK. Yes i was going to just leave a few pounds in the UK LLoyds for misc. bills if they pop up. But Revolut & Monzo shouldnt care if i am transient, should they? Wise too? Where do people who dont claim a residence anywhere keep their coins? When i get a sailboat im likely going to be all over the place.eskbanker said:
UK financial institutions need to know where to find you (and not just by phone/email!), so if you're unable to provide a new address, and your non-resident status is detected, then anticipate issues, hence the recommendation to make alternative arrangements rather than expecting to continue with your UK accounts....[Deleted User] said:
Well, i wont have a UK address. I have UK/US passports so i expect i will reside in the states for the long term. I will be closing a couple of my mothers accounts also, and i may just get a bank cheque and hold onto it until i decide where to put it. I can open a US bank account and deposit it there later on. I am expecting the £ to gain on the $ over the next year, so im in no hurry to convert the £. I have had Lloyds for 15 years but i dont think it will be convenient trying to manage money with them when im all over the place. Im just timid having £200K sitting in online bank accounts with no brick & mortar roots. Channel Islands? Is there some umbrella protection?Hoenir said:What address will you use in the UK?
Might be worth opening an account in the Channel Islands with one of the major banks.
The inherent risk is that any UK based bank might decide to terminate their relationship with you at any time as a non Resident. Closing your account would no doubt be problematic.
Convenience and user interfaces really don't form part of any discussion about whether a financial institution is required to comply with KYC regulations, and being 'geared towards international type of spending' is likewise irrelevant.
I wasn't making any comment about the outcome of any insolvency, which again has no relevance to KYC, but it is true that, unlike Lloyds and Monzo, Revolut doesn't offer FSCS protection, which would be seen by most as a reason not to use them for depositing significant sums.0 -
I'm not sure there are many more ways of emphasising that it's not viable to plan to keep using UK accounts when no longer resident, but perhaps these will help make the point:[Deleted User] said:
I see. Well i have all 3 accounts. Basically i want a place thats secure for my money until im ready to use it for any significant purchase. Car, Boat, etc. Im anticipating the pound to strengthen against the dollar over the next few months. And a 1c gain, if i hold sterling, is quite a decent amount. So i suppose Monzo would be fine for a larger sum of savings, and just have Revolut for smaller everyday spending abroad. I just have not used either Revolut or Monzo as i only got them a few months ago as a future form of overseas spending.eskbanker said:
I fear you may be missing the point![Deleted User] said:
I thought Revolut would be more convenient since their user interface is geared towards international type of spending. Im not sure they are equal to Lloyds as far as if they go insolvent or something collapses the company. Monzo is protected by the UK more so than Revolut, or thats what i read.eskbanker said:
Why would Revolut and Monzo be any different from other FCA-regulated institutions such as Lloyds, all of whom are subject to Know Your Customer regulations, etc?[Deleted User] said:
OK. Yes i was going to just leave a few pounds in the UK LLoyds for misc. bills if they pop up. But Revolut & Monzo shouldnt care if i am transient, should they? Wise too? Where do people who dont claim a residence anywhere keep their coins? When i get a sailboat im likely going to be all over the place.eskbanker said:
UK financial institutions need to know where to find you (and not just by phone/email!), so if you're unable to provide a new address, and your non-resident status is detected, then anticipate issues, hence the recommendation to make alternative arrangements rather than expecting to continue with your UK accounts....[Deleted User] said:
Well, i wont have a UK address. I have UK/US passports so i expect i will reside in the states for the long term. I will be closing a couple of my mothers accounts also, and i may just get a bank cheque and hold onto it until i decide where to put it. I can open a US bank account and deposit it there later on. I am expecting the £ to gain on the $ over the next year, so im in no hurry to convert the £. I have had Lloyds for 15 years but i dont think it will be convenient trying to manage money with them when im all over the place. Im just timid having £200K sitting in online bank accounts with no brick & mortar roots. Channel Islands? Is there some umbrella protection?Hoenir said:What address will you use in the UK?
Might be worth opening an account in the Channel Islands with one of the major banks.
The inherent risk is that any UK based bank might decide to terminate their relationship with you at any time as a non Resident. Closing your account would no doubt be problematic.
Convenience and user interfaces really don't form part of any discussion about whether a financial institution is required to comply with KYC regulations, and being 'geared towards international type of spending' is likewise irrelevant.
I wasn't making any comment about the outcome of any insolvency, which again has no relevance to KYC, but it is true that, unlike Lloyds and Monzo, Revolut doesn't offer FSCS protection, which would be seen by most as a reason not to use them for depositing significant sums.https://monzo.com/legal/terms-and-conditionsWe may close your account immediately or stop you using your card and/or app if we believe you've:
[...]
had a change in circumstances which means you're no longer eligible for a current account (like moving abroad)
If you're moving to a different country, you'll need to close your Revolut account to be able to open a new one in another supported country. You can't have multiple accounts, or keep your current account if you're no longer a resident in the country it was opened in.https://help.revolut.com/help/profile-and-plan/profile-plan/profile-settings/how-do-i-change-my-country-of-residence/4 -
Looking at the Monzo T&C's you can't hold an account with them if you move abroad, and doing so can lead to the immediate closure of your account(s).[Deleted User] said:
I see. Well i have all 3 accounts. Basically i want a place thats secure for my money until im ready to use it for any significant purchase. Car, Boat, etc. Im anticipating the pound to strengthen against the dollar over the next few months. And a 1c gain, if i hold sterling, is quite a decent amount. So i suppose Monzo would be fine for a larger sum of savings, and just have Revolut for smaller everyday spending abroad. I just have not used either Revolut or Monzo as i only got them a few months ago as a future form of overseas spending.eskbanker said:
I fear you may be missing the point![Deleted User] said:
I thought Revolut would be more convenient since their user interface is geared towards international type of spending. Im not sure they are equal to Lloyds as far as if they go insolvent or something collapses the company. Monzo is protected by the UK more so than Revolut, or thats what i read.eskbanker said:
Why would Revolut and Monzo be any different from other FCA-regulated institutions such as Lloyds, all of whom are subject to Know Your Customer regulations, etc?[Deleted User] said:
OK. Yes i was going to just leave a few pounds in the UK LLoyds for misc. bills if they pop up. But Revolut & Monzo shouldnt care if i am transient, should they? Wise too? Where do people who dont claim a residence anywhere keep their coins? When i get a sailboat im likely going to be all over the place.eskbanker said:
UK financial institutions need to know where to find you (and not just by phone/email!), so if you're unable to provide a new address, and your non-resident status is detected, then anticipate issues, hence the recommendation to make alternative arrangements rather than expecting to continue with your UK accounts....[Deleted User] said:
Well, i wont have a UK address. I have UK/US passports so i expect i will reside in the states for the long term. I will be closing a couple of my mothers accounts also, and i may just get a bank cheque and hold onto it until i decide where to put it. I can open a US bank account and deposit it there later on. I am expecting the £ to gain on the $ over the next year, so im in no hurry to convert the £. I have had Lloyds for 15 years but i dont think it will be convenient trying to manage money with them when im all over the place. Im just timid having £200K sitting in online bank accounts with no brick & mortar roots. Channel Islands? Is there some umbrella protection?Hoenir said:What address will you use in the UK?
Might be worth opening an account in the Channel Islands with one of the major banks.
The inherent risk is that any UK based bank might decide to terminate their relationship with you at any time as a non Resident. Closing your account would no doubt be problematic.
Convenience and user interfaces really don't form part of any discussion about whether a financial institution is required to comply with KYC regulations, and being 'geared towards international type of spending' is likewise irrelevant.
I wasn't making any comment about the outcome of any insolvency, which again has no relevance to KYC, but it is true that, unlike Lloyds and Monzo, Revolut doesn't offer FSCS protection, which would be seen by most as a reason not to use them for depositing significant sums.
As you won't have a UK address permanently I think you'll be quickly in breach of their T&Cs
Looking at the website, the HSBC expat account would meet your needs for both traveling and living on a sailboat
https://www.expat.hsbc.com/3 -
Yes i see that. Im not sure how they determine that you have permanently left the UK. Im sure there are people that go out of the country for months at a time. I think after 1 year they could ask questions. I think i will be OK for the short term. There are plenty of options in the USA for banking. I wanted to keep my money in Sterling and not have to convert it to dollars. Thats the main reason.Emmia said:
Looking at the Monzo T&C's you can't hold an account with them if you move abroad, and doing so can lead to the immediate closure of your account(s).[Deleted User] said:
I see. Well i have all 3 accounts. Basically i want a place thats secure for my money until im ready to use it for any significant purchase. Car, Boat, etc. Im anticipating the pound to strengthen against the dollar over the next few months. And a 1c gain, if i hold sterling, is quite a decent amount. So i suppose Monzo would be fine for a larger sum of savings, and just have Revolut for smaller everyday spending abroad. I just have not used either Revolut or Monzo as i only got them a few months ago as a future form of overseas spending.eskbanker said:
I fear you may be missing the point![Deleted User] said:
I thought Revolut would be more convenient since their user interface is geared towards international type of spending. Im not sure they are equal to Lloyds as far as if they go insolvent or something collapses the company. Monzo is protected by the UK more so than Revolut, or thats what i read.eskbanker said:
Why would Revolut and Monzo be any different from other FCA-regulated institutions such as Lloyds, all of whom are subject to Know Your Customer regulations, etc?[Deleted User] said:
OK. Yes i was going to just leave a few pounds in the UK LLoyds for misc. bills if they pop up. But Revolut & Monzo shouldnt care if i am transient, should they? Wise too? Where do people who dont claim a residence anywhere keep their coins? When i get a sailboat im likely going to be all over the place.eskbanker said:
UK financial institutions need to know where to find you (and not just by phone/email!), so if you're unable to provide a new address, and your non-resident status is detected, then anticipate issues, hence the recommendation to make alternative arrangements rather than expecting to continue with your UK accounts....[Deleted User] said:
Well, i wont have a UK address. I have UK/US passports so i expect i will reside in the states for the long term. I will be closing a couple of my mothers accounts also, and i may just get a bank cheque and hold onto it until i decide where to put it. I can open a US bank account and deposit it there later on. I am expecting the £ to gain on the $ over the next year, so im in no hurry to convert the £. I have had Lloyds for 15 years but i dont think it will be convenient trying to manage money with them when im all over the place. Im just timid having £200K sitting in online bank accounts with no brick & mortar roots. Channel Islands? Is there some umbrella protection?Hoenir said:What address will you use in the UK?
Might be worth opening an account in the Channel Islands with one of the major banks.
The inherent risk is that any UK based bank might decide to terminate their relationship with you at any time as a non Resident. Closing your account would no doubt be problematic.
Convenience and user interfaces really don't form part of any discussion about whether a financial institution is required to comply with KYC regulations, and being 'geared towards international type of spending' is likewise irrelevant.
I wasn't making any comment about the outcome of any insolvency, which again has no relevance to KYC, but it is true that, unlike Lloyds and Monzo, Revolut doesn't offer FSCS protection, which would be seen by most as a reason not to use them for depositing significant sums.
As you won't have a UK address permanently I think you'll be quickly in breach of their T&Cs0 -
Thanks! I will check that out.Emmia said:
Looking at the Monzo T&C's you can't hold an account with them if you move abroad, and doing so can lead to the immediate closure of your account(s).[Deleted User] said:
I see. Well i have all 3 accounts. Basically i want a place thats secure for my money until im ready to use it for any significant purchase. Car, Boat, etc. Im anticipating the pound to strengthen against the dollar over the next few months. And a 1c gain, if i hold sterling, is quite a decent amount. So i suppose Monzo would be fine for a larger sum of savings, and just have Revolut for smaller everyday spending abroad. I just have not used either Revolut or Monzo as i only got them a few months ago as a future form of overseas spending.eskbanker said:
I fear you may be missing the point![Deleted User] said:
I thought Revolut would be more convenient since their user interface is geared towards international type of spending. Im not sure they are equal to Lloyds as far as if they go insolvent or something collapses the company. Monzo is protected by the UK more so than Revolut, or thats what i read.eskbanker said:
Why would Revolut and Monzo be any different from other FCA-regulated institutions such as Lloyds, all of whom are subject to Know Your Customer regulations, etc?[Deleted User] said:
OK. Yes i was going to just leave a few pounds in the UK LLoyds for misc. bills if they pop up. But Revolut & Monzo shouldnt care if i am transient, should they? Wise too? Where do people who dont claim a residence anywhere keep their coins? When i get a sailboat im likely going to be all over the place.eskbanker said:
UK financial institutions need to know where to find you (and not just by phone/email!), so if you're unable to provide a new address, and your non-resident status is detected, then anticipate issues, hence the recommendation to make alternative arrangements rather than expecting to continue with your UK accounts....[Deleted User] said:
Well, i wont have a UK address. I have UK/US passports so i expect i will reside in the states for the long term. I will be closing a couple of my mothers accounts also, and i may just get a bank cheque and hold onto it until i decide where to put it. I can open a US bank account and deposit it there later on. I am expecting the £ to gain on the $ over the next year, so im in no hurry to convert the £. I have had Lloyds for 15 years but i dont think it will be convenient trying to manage money with them when im all over the place. Im just timid having £200K sitting in online bank accounts with no brick & mortar roots. Channel Islands? Is there some umbrella protection?Hoenir said:What address will you use in the UK?
Might be worth opening an account in the Channel Islands with one of the major banks.
The inherent risk is that any UK based bank might decide to terminate their relationship with you at any time as a non Resident. Closing your account would no doubt be problematic.
Convenience and user interfaces really don't form part of any discussion about whether a financial institution is required to comply with KYC regulations, and being 'geared towards international type of spending' is likewise irrelevant.
I wasn't making any comment about the outcome of any insolvency, which again has no relevance to KYC, but it is true that, unlike Lloyds and Monzo, Revolut doesn't offer FSCS protection, which would be seen by most as a reason not to use them for depositing significant sums.
As you won't have a UK address permanently I think you'll be quickly in breach of their T&Cs
Looking at the website, the HSBC expat account would meet your needs for both traveling and living on a sailboat
https://www.expat.hsbc.com/
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The expat account also allows you to hold a balance in sterling, dollars or euros depending on what is best for you.[Deleted User] said:
Thanks! I will check that out.Emmia said:
Looking at the Monzo T&C's you can't hold an account with them if you move abroad, and doing so can lead to the immediate closure of your account(s).[Deleted User] said:
I see. Well i have all 3 accounts. Basically i want a place thats secure for my money until im ready to use it for any significant purchase. Car, Boat, etc. Im anticipating the pound to strengthen against the dollar over the next few months. And a 1c gain, if i hold sterling, is quite a decent amount. So i suppose Monzo would be fine for a larger sum of savings, and just have Revolut for smaller everyday spending abroad. I just have not used either Revolut or Monzo as i only got them a few months ago as a future form of overseas spending.eskbanker said:
I fear you may be missing the point![Deleted User] said:
I thought Revolut would be more convenient since their user interface is geared towards international type of spending. Im not sure they are equal to Lloyds as far as if they go insolvent or something collapses the company. Monzo is protected by the UK more so than Revolut, or thats what i read.eskbanker said:
Why would Revolut and Monzo be any different from other FCA-regulated institutions such as Lloyds, all of whom are subject to Know Your Customer regulations, etc?[Deleted User] said:
OK. Yes i was going to just leave a few pounds in the UK LLoyds for misc. bills if they pop up. But Revolut & Monzo shouldnt care if i am transient, should they? Wise too? Where do people who dont claim a residence anywhere keep their coins? When i get a sailboat im likely going to be all over the place.eskbanker said:
UK financial institutions need to know where to find you (and not just by phone/email!), so if you're unable to provide a new address, and your non-resident status is detected, then anticipate issues, hence the recommendation to make alternative arrangements rather than expecting to continue with your UK accounts....[Deleted User] said:
Well, i wont have a UK address. I have UK/US passports so i expect i will reside in the states for the long term. I will be closing a couple of my mothers accounts also, and i may just get a bank cheque and hold onto it until i decide where to put it. I can open a US bank account and deposit it there later on. I am expecting the £ to gain on the $ over the next year, so im in no hurry to convert the £. I have had Lloyds for 15 years but i dont think it will be convenient trying to manage money with them when im all over the place. Im just timid having £200K sitting in online bank accounts with no brick & mortar roots. Channel Islands? Is there some umbrella protection?Hoenir said:What address will you use in the UK?
Might be worth opening an account in the Channel Islands with one of the major banks.
The inherent risk is that any UK based bank might decide to terminate their relationship with you at any time as a non Resident. Closing your account would no doubt be problematic.
Convenience and user interfaces really don't form part of any discussion about whether a financial institution is required to comply with KYC regulations, and being 'geared towards international type of spending' is likewise irrelevant.
I wasn't making any comment about the outcome of any insolvency, which again has no relevance to KYC, but it is true that, unlike Lloyds and Monzo, Revolut doesn't offer FSCS protection, which would be seen by most as a reason not to use them for depositing significant sums.
As you won't have a UK address permanently I think you'll be quickly in breach of their T&Cs
Looking at the website, the HSBC expat account would meet your needs for both traveling and living on a sailboat
https://www.expat.hsbc.com/0 -
They send you a letter which gets returned as gone away and try a trace which shows you a gone away but no existing UK address[Deleted User] said: Yes i see that. Im not sure how they determine that you have permanently left the UK. Im sure there are people that go out of the country for months at a time. I think after 1 year they could ask questions. I think i will be OK for the short term. There are plenty of options in the USA for banking. I wanted to keep my money in Sterling and not have to convert it to dollars. Thats the main reason.1 -
Lack of any UK communication address is something of a red flag waving........ look at me. Need a replacement card for any reason where is it sent to?[Deleted User] said:
Yes i see that. Im not sure how they determine that you have permanently left the UK. Im sure there are people that go out of the country for months at a time.Emmia said:
Looking at the Monzo T&C's you can't hold an account with them if you move abroad, and doing so can lead to the immediate closure of your account(s).[Deleted User] said:
I see. Well i have all 3 accounts. Basically i want a place thats secure for my money until im ready to use it for any significant purchase. Car, Boat, etc. Im anticipating the pound to strengthen against the dollar over the next few months. And a 1c gain, if i hold sterling, is quite a decent amount. So i suppose Monzo would be fine for a larger sum of savings, and just have Revolut for smaller everyday spending abroad. I just have not used either Revolut or Monzo as i only got them a few months ago as a future form of overseas spending.eskbanker said:
I fear you may be missing the point![Deleted User] said:
I thought Revolut would be more convenient since their user interface is geared towards international type of spending. Im not sure they are equal to Lloyds as far as if they go insolvent or something collapses the company. Monzo is protected by the UK more so than Revolut, or thats what i read.eskbanker said:
Why would Revolut and Monzo be any different from other FCA-regulated institutions such as Lloyds, all of whom are subject to Know Your Customer regulations, etc?[Deleted User] said:
OK. Yes i was going to just leave a few pounds in the UK LLoyds for misc. bills if they pop up. But Revolut & Monzo shouldnt care if i am transient, should they? Wise too? Where do people who dont claim a residence anywhere keep their coins? When i get a sailboat im likely going to be all over the place.eskbanker said:
UK financial institutions need to know where to find you (and not just by phone/email!), so if you're unable to provide a new address, and your non-resident status is detected, then anticipate issues, hence the recommendation to make alternative arrangements rather than expecting to continue with your UK accounts....[Deleted User] said:
Well, i wont have a UK address. I have UK/US passports so i expect i will reside in the states for the long term. I will be closing a couple of my mothers accounts also, and i may just get a bank cheque and hold onto it until i decide where to put it. I can open a US bank account and deposit it there later on. I am expecting the £ to gain on the $ over the next year, so im in no hurry to convert the £. I have had Lloyds for 15 years but i dont think it will be convenient trying to manage money with them when im all over the place. Im just timid having £200K sitting in online bank accounts with no brick & mortar roots. Channel Islands? Is there some umbrella protection?Hoenir said:What address will you use in the UK?
Might be worth opening an account in the Channel Islands with one of the major banks.
The inherent risk is that any UK based bank might decide to terminate their relationship with you at any time as a non Resident. Closing your account would no doubt be problematic.
Convenience and user interfaces really don't form part of any discussion about whether a financial institution is required to comply with KYC regulations, and being 'geared towards international type of spending' is likewise irrelevant.
I wasn't making any comment about the outcome of any insolvency, which again has no relevance to KYC, but it is true that, unlike Lloyds and Monzo, Revolut doesn't offer FSCS protection, which would be seen by most as a reason not to use them for depositing significant sums.
As you won't have a UK address permanently I think you'll be quickly in breach of their T&Cs
Do you want to take the risk of your accounts being frozen and the money inaccessible? If the account is subsequently closed and you are given a cheque where would deposit it?0 -
Im not really fussed where i keep the money. I just dont want it in $$ until i need $$. I have no family left in the UK as both my parents have passed away recently, so no address can be used here anymore. When i goto the states, i will likely be bouncing around a bit, and will be in southern asia for a little bit, and then back to the states where i will be shopping for a sailboat. (which will be my primary home) I want to keep my assets in sterling because it is gaining on the dollar and i expect it will continue doing so. HSBC has an expat account which i may look into. Revolut is also in the US. Mostly i just want the bulk of the £ in a secure account while i sort out my affairs in the next few months. I would likely just put a small amount in Revolut or Monzo for my day to day living expenses when needed.Hoenir said:
Lack of any UK communication address is something of a red flag waving........ look at me. Need a replacement card for any reason where is it sent to?[Deleted User] said:
Yes i see that. Im not sure how they determine that you have permanently left the UK. Im sure there are people that go out of the country for months at a time.Emmia said:
Looking at the Monzo T&C's you can't hold an account with them if you move abroad, and doing so can lead to the immediate closure of your account(s).[Deleted User] said:
I see. Well i have all 3 accounts. Basically i want a place thats secure for my money until im ready to use it for any significant purchase. Car, Boat, etc. Im anticipating the pound to strengthen against the dollar over the next few months. And a 1c gain, if i hold sterling, is quite a decent amount. So i suppose Monzo would be fine for a larger sum of savings, and just have Revolut for smaller everyday spending abroad. I just have not used either Revolut or Monzo as i only got them a few months ago as a future form of overseas spending.eskbanker said:
I fear you may be missing the point![Deleted User] said:
I thought Revolut would be more convenient since their user interface is geared towards international type of spending. Im not sure they are equal to Lloyds as far as if they go insolvent or something collapses the company. Monzo is protected by the UK more so than Revolut, or thats what i read.eskbanker said:
Why would Revolut and Monzo be any different from other FCA-regulated institutions such as Lloyds, all of whom are subject to Know Your Customer regulations, etc?[Deleted User] said:
OK. Yes i was going to just leave a few pounds in the UK LLoyds for misc. bills if they pop up. But Revolut & Monzo shouldnt care if i am transient, should they? Wise too? Where do people who dont claim a residence anywhere keep their coins? When i get a sailboat im likely going to be all over the place.eskbanker said:
UK financial institutions need to know where to find you (and not just by phone/email!), so if you're unable to provide a new address, and your non-resident status is detected, then anticipate issues, hence the recommendation to make alternative arrangements rather than expecting to continue with your UK accounts....[Deleted User] said:
Well, i wont have a UK address. I have UK/US passports so i expect i will reside in the states for the long term. I will be closing a couple of my mothers accounts also, and i may just get a bank cheque and hold onto it until i decide where to put it. I can open a US bank account and deposit it there later on. I am expecting the £ to gain on the $ over the next year, so im in no hurry to convert the £. I have had Lloyds for 15 years but i dont think it will be convenient trying to manage money with them when im all over the place. Im just timid having £200K sitting in online bank accounts with no brick & mortar roots. Channel Islands? Is there some umbrella protection?Hoenir said:What address will you use in the UK?
Might be worth opening an account in the Channel Islands with one of the major banks.
The inherent risk is that any UK based bank might decide to terminate their relationship with you at any time as a non Resident. Closing your account would no doubt be problematic.
Convenience and user interfaces really don't form part of any discussion about whether a financial institution is required to comply with KYC regulations, and being 'geared towards international type of spending' is likewise irrelevant.
I wasn't making any comment about the outcome of any insolvency, which again has no relevance to KYC, but it is true that, unlike Lloyds and Monzo, Revolut doesn't offer FSCS protection, which would be seen by most as a reason not to use them for depositing significant sums.
As you won't have a UK address permanently I think you'll be quickly in breach of their T&Cs
Do you want to take the risk of your accounts being frozen and the money inaccessible? If the account is subsequently closed and you are given a cheque where would deposit it?0
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