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Changing title plan - boundary issue.



Essentially it is a small strip of land that is relatively inconsequential, so it doesn't impact my decision to purchase other than it being an issue if not resolved when I eventually sell.
How easy is it to change the title plan, assuming neighbours agree and don't make it awkward (you'd assume they'd be happy to have it resolved)? How long does it take and at what cost?
My solicitors have recommended getting it resolved before moving (or the boundary correcting to reabsorb the land) and want to gauge how realistic that is.
They were absolutely useless in advising what it might cost.
Thanks,
Ryan
August 2019: £28.8k
November 2020: £0 (0% interest)
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The reason the solicitor won't put a figure on it is probably because it's the old "how long is a piece of string" question. The land in question could end up being given a price that far exceeds its actual value. You need to understand the detail of the dispute and probably talk to both parties face to face before you make a decision.0
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prettyandfluffy said:The reason the solicitor won't put a figure on it is probably because it's the old "how long is a piece of string" question. The land in question could end up being given a price that far exceeds its actual value. You need to understand the detail of the dispute and probably talk to both parties face to face before you make a decision.
But just wondering what the best case scenario is. Trying to get a sense of best case scenario for exchange/completion as it will be on the vendors to sort before then.
I know the details and have pictures etc. Left out of my original post but will add here:
1) There was a row of hedges lining the boundary. One day the next door neighbour took out a hedge towards the end of their drive way and made their driveway slightly wider, essentially cutting off a thin corner to make it easier to get out of their drive (presumably).
2) The strip of Land is roughly 0.5m^2
3) This happened about 20 years ago, the neighbour since died and there are new owners in the next door house who have been there for some time. So they bought the house believing this to be the boundary without being aware of the history.
Thanks,
RyanAugust 2019: £28.8k
November 2020: £0 (0% interest)
My debt free diary: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/77330320#Comment_77330320
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You draw up a plan, get it signed along with the transfer deed, register it. Minimum cost is peanuts. More costly if there are mortgage lenders involved.1
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ryanm8655 said:prettyandfluffy said:The reason the solicitor won't put a figure on it is probably because it's the old "how long is a piece of string" question. The land in question could end up being given a price that far exceeds its actual value. You need to understand the detail of the dispute and probably talk to both parties face to face before you make a decision.
But just wondering what the best case scenario is. Trying to get a sense of best case scenario for exchange/completion as it will be on the vendors to sort before then.
I know the details and have pictures etc. Left out of my original post but will add here:
1) There was a row of hedges lining the boundary. One day the next door neighbour took out a hedge towards the end of their drive way and made their driveway slightly wider, essentially cutting off a thin corner to make it easier to get out of their drive (presumably).
2) The strip of Land is roughly 1.5m x 0.3m.
3) This happened about 20 years ago, the neighbour since died and there are new owners in the next door house who have been there for some time.
Thanks,
Ryan
Yes, it is the vendor's issue to sort out with the neighbours, but there will be no exchange or completion while this is ongoing. When I had an issue similar to this, it took 3 months for the Land Registry to deal with it and that was without any objections from neighbouring properties.
You say it won't impact your purchase of the property and the area in question is small, so is it really necessary to get the vendor or yourself to claim this piece of land back after 20 years? How long has the dispute been going on between the vendor and the neighbour, as the neighbour may now have a prescriptive right over this piece of land if it has been used for 20 years.1 -
How easy is it to change the title plan, assuming neighbours agree and don't make it awkward (you'd assume they'd be happy to have it resolved)? How long does it take and at what cost?If the neighbours would be agreeable why is there a dispute?1
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Tiglet2 said:ryanm8655 said:prettyandfluffy said:The reason the solicitor won't put a figure on it is probably because it's the old "how long is a piece of string" question. The land in question could end up being given a price that far exceeds its actual value. You need to understand the detail of the dispute and probably talk to both parties face to face before you make a decision.
But just wondering what the best case scenario is. Trying to get a sense of best case scenario for exchange/completion as it will be on the vendors to sort before then.
I know the details and have pictures etc. Left out of my original post but will add here:
1) There was a row of hedges lining the boundary. One day the next door neighbour took out a hedge towards the end of their drive way and made their driveway slightly wider, essentially cutting off a thin corner to make it easier to get out of their drive (presumably).
2) The strip of Land is roughly 1.5m x 0.3m.
3) This happened about 20 years ago, the neighbour since died and there are new owners in the next door house who have been there for some time.
Thanks,
Ryan
Yes, it is the vendor's issue to sort out with the neighbours, but there will be no exchange or completion while this is ongoing. When I had an issue similar to this, it took 3 months for the Land Registry to deal with it and that was without any objections from neighbouring properties.
You say it won't impact your purchase of the property and the area in question is small, so is it really necessary to get the vendor or yourself to claim this piece of land back after 20 years? How long has the dispute been going on between the vendor and the neighbour, as the neighbour may now have a prescriptive right over this piece of land if it has been used for 20 years.
The three months is handy to know, it's not going to be quick then!August 2019: £28.8k
November 2020: £0 (0% interest)
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sheramber said:How easy is it to change the title plan, assuming neighbours agree and don't make it awkward (you'd assume they'd be happy to have it resolved)? How long does it take and at what cost?If the neighbours would be agreeable why is there a dispute?
August 2019: £28.8k
November 2020: £0 (0% interest)
My debt free diary: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/77330320#Comment_77330320
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ryanm8655 said:sheramber said:How easy is it to change the title plan, assuming neighbours agree and don't make it awkward (you'd assume they'd be happy to have it resolved)? How long does it take and at what cost?If the neighbours would be agreeable why is there a dispute?
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sheramber said:ryanm8655 said:sheramber said:How easy is it to change the title plan, assuming neighbours agree and don't make it awkward (you'd assume they'd be happy to have it resolved)? How long does it take and at what cost?If the neighbours would be agreeable why is there a dispute?
August 2019: £28.8k
November 2020: £0 (0% interest)
My debt free diary: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/77330320#Comment_77330320
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