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olbas_oil
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What's the quickest way to discover the total pension paid by DWP for last tax year?
I have looked at my HMRC personal tax account, and it has details of employment pension, but not DWP. In previous years I have gone back through monthly bank statements, but I wondered whether there was a more authoritative source?
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  • Dazed_and_C0nfused
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    olbas_oil said:
    What's the quickest way to discover the total pension paid by DWP for last tax year?
    I have looked at my HMRC personal tax account, and it has details of employment pension, but not DWP. In previous years I have gone back through monthly bank statements, but I wondered whether there was a more authoritative source?
    Do you mean a pension paid by DWP as your former employer?

    Or do you mean the State Pension?
  • molerat
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    There is no on line view of previous year's SP amounts.  The best method for a full year is 51 new + 1 old which is what DWP / HMRC use for your tax coding.  If not a full year you need to work out the number of weekly pay days from retirement to 5 April less the first weeks pre retirement days.
  • probate_slave
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    If HMRC sent you a tax code notice during the year for 2024/25 it should include the total amount of SP, correctly calculated.

  • olbas_oil
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    olbas_oil said:
    What's the quickest way to discover the total pension paid by DWP for last tax year?
    I have looked at my HMRC personal tax account, and it has details of employment pension, but not DWP. In previous years I have gone back through monthly bank statements, but I wondered whether there was a more authoritative source?
    Do you mean a pension paid by DWP as your former employer?

    Or do you mean the State Pension?
    State pension
  • p00hsticks
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    edited 5 June at 6:10PM
    olbas_oil said:
    What's the quickest way to discover the total pension paid by DWP for last tax year?
    Note that ,as often comes up on this board, for income tax purposes it's the total pension amount you are entitled to during the tax year, not what you have actually been paid, that HMRC will use, and as far as I'm aware DWP should pass that figure directly across to HMRC
  • jem16
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    olbas_oil said:
    What's the quickest way to discover the total pension paid by DWP for last tax year?
    Note that ,as often comes up on this board, for income tax purposes it's the total pension amount you are entitled to during the tax year, not what you have actually been paid, that HMRC will use, and as far as I'm aware DWP should pass that figure directly across to HMRC
    Yet somehow the pre-populated figure in my tax return is always wrong as it gives the 52 times weekly rate amount instead of the correct figure of 1 week of old and 51 weeks of new that is correctly used for the tax code. 

    The occasional 53 week tax year seems to be totally ignored too. 
  • Bookworm225
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    edited 6 June at 10:09AM
    jem16 said:
    olbas_oil said:
    What's the quickest way to discover the total pension paid by DWP for last tax year?
    Note that ,as often comes up on this board, for income tax purposes it's the total pension amount you are entitled to during the tax year, not what you have actually been paid, that HMRC will use, and as far as I'm aware DWP should pass that figure directly across to HMRC
    Yet somehow the pre-populated figure in my tax return is always wrong as it gives the 52 times weekly rate amount instead of the correct figure of 1 week of old and 51 weeks of new that is correctly used for the tax code. 

    The occasional 53 week tax year seems to be totally ignored too. 
    always wise to read the instructions when undertaking a task: 1 old and 51 new weeks

    How to fill in your tax return


  • jem16
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    jem16 said:
    olbas_oil said:
    What's the quickest way to discover the total pension paid by DWP for last tax year?
    Note that ,as often comes up on this board, for income tax purposes it's the total pension amount you are entitled to during the tax year, not what you have actually been paid, that HMRC will use, and as far as I'm aware DWP should pass that figure directly across to HMRC
    Yet somehow the pre-populated figure in my tax return is always wrong as it gives the 52 times weekly rate amount instead of the correct figure of 1 week of old and 51 weeks of new that is correctly used for the tax code. 

    The occasional 53 week tax year seems to be totally ignored too. 
    always wise to read the instructions when undertaking a task: 1 old and 51 new weeks

    How to fill in your tax return


    It’s HMRC you need to tell, not me. 

    As I said my tax return always has a pre-populated figure which is 52 times my weekly amount. I always correct it as per the instructions to 1 week of old and 51 weeks of new. So it’s HMRC who aren’t following their own instructions. I am. 
  • Dazed_and_C0nfused
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    jem16 said:
    jem16 said:
    olbas_oil said:
    What's the quickest way to discover the total pension paid by DWP for last tax year?
    Note that ,as often comes up on this board, for income tax purposes it's the total pension amount you are entitled to during the tax year, not what you have actually been paid, that HMRC will use, and as far as I'm aware DWP should pass that figure directly across to HMRC
    Yet somehow the pre-populated figure in my tax return is always wrong as it gives the 52 times weekly rate amount instead of the correct figure of 1 week of old and 51 weeks of new that is correctly used for the tax code. 

    The occasional 53 week tax year seems to be totally ignored too. 
    always wise to read the instructions when undertaking a task: 1 old and 51 new weeks

    How to fill in your tax return


    It’s HMRC you need to tell, not me. 

    As I said my tax return always has a pre-populated figure which is 52 times my weekly amount. I always correct it as per the instructions to 1 week of old and 51 weeks of new. So it’s HMRC who aren’t following their own instructions. I am. 
    Although it isn't actually 1+51 for everyone every year.

    https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/paye-manual/paye76030
  • jem16
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    edited 6 June at 10:47AM
    jem16 said:
    jem16 said:
    olbas_oil said:
    What's the quickest way to discover the total pension paid by DWP for last tax year?
    Note that ,as often comes up on this board, for income tax purposes it's the total pension amount you are entitled to during the tax year, not what you have actually been paid, that HMRC will use, and as far as I'm aware DWP should pass that figure directly across to HMRC
    Yet somehow the pre-populated figure in my tax return is always wrong as it gives the 52 times weekly rate amount instead of the correct figure of 1 week of old and 51 weeks of new that is correctly used for the tax code. 

    The occasional 53 week tax year seems to be totally ignored too. 
    always wise to read the instructions when undertaking a task: 1 old and 51 new weeks

    How to fill in your tax return


    It’s HMRC you need to tell, not me. 

    As I said my tax return always has a pre-populated figure which is 52 times my weekly amount. I always correct it as per the instructions to 1 week of old and 51 weeks of new. So it’s HMRC who aren’t following their own instructions. I am. 
    Although it isn't actually 1+51 for everyone every year.

    https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/paye-manual/paye76030
    Yes I agree it’s not always 1 + 51. There are some years that are also 1 + 52.

    Plus as it points out there, it will always be 1 + 51 for those of us reaching SPA from 6th April 2010 onwards except for those 53 week years.

    My point is that I know the pre-populated figure is wrong and each time I’ve had to change it to the correct one based on my actual entitlement and taking the increase date into account. 

    The figure used in my tax code is correct so why can’t that figure be pre-populated? It’s all been asked on their Community Forums and even the HMRC Admin give different answers. 
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