Benefit In Kind Re Company Vans

GEB1969
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If your employee gives you a work van to drive to and from your place of work from your home address with a fuel card but the van does not get used for private use does this need to go on your P11D as a Benefit in Kind. Many thanks.
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  • Bookworm225
    Bookworm225 Posts: 383 Forumite
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    edited 5 June at 10:13AM
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    it is your employer's responsibility to decide if there is a BIK to be declared on P11D.

    keeping the van at home and commuting from home to work is private use and therefore triggers van BIK
  • DullGreyGuy
    DullGreyGuy Posts: 17,760 Forumite
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    GEB1969 said:
    If your employee gives you a work van to drive to and from your place of work from your home address with a fuel card but the van does not get used for private use does this need to go on your P11D as a Benefit in Kind. Many thanks.
    Assume you mean employer?

    Going to and from your regular place of work is private use; though you dont say if you are commuting to a regular place of work or travelling to different customers every day
  • GEB1969
    GEB1969 Posts: 5 Forumite
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    GEB1969 said:
    If your employee gives you a work van to drive to and from your place of work from your home address with a fuel card but the van does not get used for private use does this need to go on your P11D as a Benefit in Kind. Many thanks.
    Assume you mean employer?

    Going to and from your regular place of work is private use; though you dont say if you are commuting to a regular place of work or travelling to different customers every day
    Sorry yes employer.
    Going to the same site everyday.
  • GEB1969
    GEB1969 Posts: 5 Forumite
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    ?
    it is your employer's responsibility to decide if there is a BIK to be declared on P11D.

    keeping the van at home and commuting from home to work is private use and therefore triggers van BIK
    ?
    it is your employer's responsibility to decide if there is a BIK to be declared on P11D.

    keeping the van at home and commuting from home to work is private use and therefore triggers van BIK
    Thank you yes I appreciate that they do the P11d declarations but have been told it is now a BIK and just wanted to check as not used for personal use at all
  • Niv
    Niv Posts: 2,556 Forumite
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    GEB1969 said:
    ?
    it is your employer's responsibility to decide if there is a BIK to be declared on P11D.

    keeping the van at home and commuting from home to work is private use and therefore triggers van BIK
    ?
    it is your employer's responsibility to decide if there is a BIK to be declared on P11D.

    keeping the van at home and commuting from home to work is private use and therefore triggers van BIK
    Thank you yes I appreciate that they do the P11d declarations but have been told it is now a BIK and just wanted to check as not used for personal use at all
    Your commute to the same place of work every day is 'personal use'. But I presume you mean you don't use it for anything else.
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  • GEB1969
    GEB1969 Posts: 5 Forumite
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    Niv said:
    GEB1969 said:
    ?
    it is your employer's responsibility to decide if there is a BIK to be declared on P11D.

    keeping the van at home and commuting from home to work is private use and therefore triggers van BIK
    ?
    it is your employer's responsibility to decide if there is a BIK to be declared on P11D.

    keeping the van at home and commuting from home to work is private use and therefore triggers van BIK
    Thank you yes I appreciate that they do the P11d declarations but have been told it is now a BIK and just wanted to check as not used for personal use at all
    Your commute to the same place of work every day is 'personal use'. But I presume you mean you don't use it for anything else.
    Used for nothing else so does it need to be on our P11D as a benefit that my employee issues.
  • mlz1413
    mlz1413 Posts: 2,984 Forumite
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    If you worked at different places all the time and those places were decided by your employer then your mileage would all be business.
    But you are going to the same place every day and that is, presumably,  your contracted place of work and so classed as personal mileage for tax reasons.
    I believe in a van there is a fixed value for vans and for fuel being a BIK (cars are based on a different system).

    I also believe if you pay the private mileage back then the BIK is not applied. HMRC do have a minimum value but employers can decide a higher figure. Also records must be kept so this can be proved.

    I say believe in my answer because I looked this uo last year but rules change. 
  • DullGreyGuy
    DullGreyGuy Posts: 17,760 Forumite
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    GEB1969 said:
    Niv said:
    GEB1969 said:
    ?
    it is your employer's responsibility to decide if there is a BIK to be declared on P11D.

    keeping the van at home and commuting from home to work is private use and therefore triggers van BIK
    ?
    it is your employer's responsibility to decide if there is a BIK to be declared on P11D.

    keeping the van at home and commuting from home to work is private use and therefore triggers van BIK
    Thank you yes I appreciate that they do the P11d declarations but have been told it is now a BIK and just wanted to check as not used for personal use at all
    Your commute to the same place of work every day is 'personal use'. But I presume you mean you don't use it for anything else.
    Used for nothing else so does it need to be on our P11D as a benefit that my employee issues.
    Yes because you have that personal use
  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 27,418 Forumite
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    You may wish to consider whether the free use of the van is costing you more than it is benefitting you.
    You will pay more tax due to the vehicle being a benefit in kind.
    You will pay more tax due to getting free fuel for private use ( as said several times your home to work commute counts as private use). Unless you pay back the fuel you use. There is a standard figure that HMRC are happy with .It depends on the size of the engine and whether it is petrol or diesel, but it is around 14 p a mile. 
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