(UKPC / DCBLegal) CCJ x2 + more than10 PCNs

FightFightParking

Hi all,

I really appreciate you taking a time against parking dracula — I'd be grateful if you could offer some guidance on a situation I'm dealing with. Last Tuesday, I found I received 2xCCJ (Claimant:UKPC, Name for payment: DCBLegal) dated in 31/10/2024 and 27/2/2025. And I have more than 10 PCNs. All of CCJs&PCNs has same root cause. I still not get used to with lifestyle in UK and I'm very shocked by receiving such letters…

 

 Background

I live in UK for around 2.5 years, and I started to live in current property from Mar/2024 which is multi-stories apartment with underground parking controlled by UKPC. I paid parking permit but property management company registered wrong name (previous tenant’s name) and then they refused giving me the permit card (“your name is not listed”). Therefore I couldn’t get the card and was not able to display it on window screen. Then, UKPC issued many tickets in last 1 year.

I haven't opened my mailbox around last 1 year. This is my honest reason why I missed all notification/letters and resulted in 2xCCJ. And last week I found a letter was about to drop off from the box, then I found all my situation. (They never give NTD although the underground parking doesn't have ANPR/CCTV.)

 

Chronology

l   29/02/2024                   Tenancy start

l   23/03/2024                   Payment to get parking permit

l   24/03/2024(around)     Move in property

l   26/03/2024                   Permit issued, but with wrong name(previous tenant) hence Property Management refused giving me permit

l   29/03/2024(around)     Start to park in underground parking

~~~over 1 year~~~

l   24/05/2025                   Open my mailbox first time last 1 year, then I’m aware my situation

l   25/05/2025                   Visit Property Management Company again to get parking permit, and this time they gave me permit without checking name.

l   25/05/2025                   Start to call DCBL(I know rookie error!), etc.. to understand the situation.

 

 

 I started to learn many things in this website, and I want to submit N244, but I'm not sure I can put aside CCJ just by the reason "I am immigrant. I still don’t get used to with UK life and I have no idea about UK private parking system and law system, so I haven't opened my mailbox and missed all letters" from CPR13.2 point of view.

I'm collecting more evidence to support CPR13.3 as well.

 

Also, 2xCCJ has exact same PoC other than PCN issue date(and total amount), and all case has exact same root cause, so I’ll take Cause of Action estoppel to make them into 1 claim.

 

 

Quick question

1.         Could I support my case from CPR 13.2 point of view? I honestly haven’t checked my mailbox as I did when I was in my home country…

2.         As mentioned above, I’m collecting more evidence on CPR13.3. My PCN has a picture of my car as evidence which taken by a people in parking, not ANPR nor CCTV. I expect they should put NTD, not NTK only, so I think they don’t comply with POFA hence it can’t be enforced against keeper. Is this correct?

3.         If I use solicitor for N244 form, and if successfully set aside CCJ, is it easy to charge solicitor fee to claimant?

 

 

 

 

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Car1980

Hi

I'd contact Jackson Yamba at Contestor Legal who operates a no-win no-fee operation for such cases.

l   23/03/2024                   Payment to get parking permit

This sounds like good evidence. I'd get together your emails and bank statement for this.

I'd also get hold of the lease for the property. Ask the landlord or find another owner-occupier. The lease often grants rights over the parking space and any permit system is unenforceable.

FightFightParking

Hi Car1980,
Thanks. Contenstor looks exact what I'm looking for!

Actually, I live in the same apartment with the case below, so basically UKPC doesn't have any right for parking charge.
UKPC court claim for own residential space — MoneySavingExpert Forum

Coupon-mad

How much is each CCJ for?

I am concerned you will get HCEOs (bailiffs) round this weekend clamping your car, so you may have to apply to STAY THE WRIT very urgently at your local court, if either of the CCJs is for over £600.

Do that first if there is a writ. Download Form N244. No solicitor needed yet. Costs £15.

Is the latest letter from DCB Ltd? Show us.

FightFightParking

Hi Coupon-mad,
I became big fan of you as I read many comments at MSE! I'm very glad to discuss wit you.

One CCJ is 2.5K, and the other one is 2K, so I expect 2 bailiffs will come...

Coupon-mad said:

Do that first if there is a writ. Download Form N244. No solicitor needed yet. Costs £15.

Could you tell me the detail process to stay writ? I googled it and it looks like same process to set aside CCJ with  £303. 

I'll post latest letter from DCBL tonight.

Coupon-mad

Why are you googling what to do when you are posting on the biggest resource database known to man & woman re specific advice?

There are loads of threads here about staying a writ at your LOCAL COURT, including yesterday!

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81482389/#Comment_81482389

Read about it today and have two N244s ready to take in person in the morning to your nearest court or email to them (URGENTLY IN THE MORNING).

No posting these 2 applications snail mail, no waiting until the weekend, and no being told it has to go into the black hole that is the CNBC.  Absolutely not.

Apply to stay the writ - pay £15 each N244.

ONLY once it is in and paid for, email DCB Ltd and DCB Legal (both) and tell them to call their HCEO dogs off.

FightFightParking

Thanks Couponmad,

I read through some threads, but I'm still not sure the detail process. (I'm not good at English. That's why I should get help from solicitor...)

Is it OK to submit N244 to stay the writ without WS or any other attached documents? I can't take enough time to complete them by tomorrow.
I’m attracted to add "set aside CCJ" in "What order are you asking the court to make and why?", but does it need WS for setting aside CCJ specifically? 
I'm not sure why some past case was able to get a hearing chance to set aside CCJ with only £15 which meant to be only for staying writ. It sounds like bug of the court system.

Coupon-mad

Yes I am telling you to put in and pay for two N244s without any documents, immediately.  If it had needed a WS I would have said do. You can do the form.

No need for a solicitor.

Maybe just attach proof of your actual address to prove that you knew nothing about these claims - ALSO in the bigger box, in each N244 mention the OTHER CLAIM NUMBER TOO.

In the first box, ask that you want an order to:

Stay both writs for claim numbers xxxxxx and xxxxxxx and consolidate the claims and allow the Defendant to defend because the claim forms were not received or seen.

Then use Contestor Legal for the stages after that which may need a fresh application.

FightFightParking

Thanks Coupon-mad.
Just to be clear, my address is no issue, unlike other people who fail to update V5C. So I found all claim form and judgement letter in my mail box last weekend. I just haven't opened my mail box.

Coupon-mad

Hand it all over to Contestor Legal asap then because that puts you on a sticker wicket.