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APCOA appeal denied & complaint as not issued under railway byelaws


Appealed PCN (did not say who the driver was) on the basis the parking was valid over the time stamp in the first letter APCOA sent & they rejected stating the car entered car park several hours prior - although they didn't send this entry image in the first PCN letter.
Then found this forum & sent a complaint using a template from this forum shared on a similar thread - (https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6557430/recent-penalty-notice-from-apcoa-station-car-park/p2 - the complaint letter from LDAST). Received a response saying that the complaint is invalid as the PCN wasn't issued under railway byelaws.
Based on advice from this forum, my next step was to wait until a month after the appeal rejection to appeal to POPLA using the 'Appeal to POPLA: Penalty Notice Issued by APCOA Under Railway Bylaw 14' shared in the thread linked above, but given APCOA have said it wasn't issued under railway byelaws, this wouldn't be valid.
Any advice appreciated! Was issued for using a private car park without valid payment.
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For more info, my appeal was: I had a parking session valid for X:XX, the time of the alleged contravention. My receipt is attached, showing parking began two minutes prior at X:XX.
Only came across this forum after so well aware this is not the recommended appeal - hoping situation is salvageable though!
The response was:Although we appreciate the evidence provided, you have paid the incorrect tariff for your parking session.
The ANPR system has captured your vehicle arriving on site at *morning* and departing at *evening*.
The payment you have made of £X covers the time period of *evening exit -2 minutes* onwards and is an off-peak tariff.
As a result, your payment was insufficient as it did not cover your entire stay onsite. It is the motorist’s responsibility to ensure that they have a valid payment for the entire time that they are parked in the car park and that this payment is made straight away when parking.
All payment options are advertised on site. The signage within the car park informs the motorist that a Parking Charge Notice will be issued if they fail to make a valid payment.
As your vehicle was parked in contravention of the terms and conditions of the site we are satisfied that the notice was correctly issued in accordance with the BPA code of practice, and therefore not able to waiver the charge on this occasion.
Please note that this car park is pay on arrival. We do, however, offer the option of LatePay. This option must be selected when purchasing your parking session so that you can backdate it to your arrival time. Please be advised that this option is only available via the APCOA Connect website up to 24 hours after your initial arrival on site.
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Appeal to PoPLA as keeper if/when your initial appeal is rejected. (You cannot appeal until you get a PoPLA code).
As long as the car park is a railway asset, then your appeal should be based on not relevant land, bylaws apply, no keeper liability.
APCOA are benign and to date do not issue court claims as far as I am aware. If your PoPLA is rejected, then ignore powerless debt collectors.
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So it was headed Parking Charge Notice (...not Penalty Notice)?
Keeper appeals saying that it's non-PoFA therefore no keeper liability. Keeper wins!PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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"Appealed PCN (did not say who the driver was)........."
"For more info, my appeal was: I had a parking session valid for X:XX, the time of the alleged contravention. My receipt is attached, showing parking began two minutes prior at X:XX."
Just checking - the above seem contradictory - does the ppc know who the driver was?
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1505grandad said:"Appealed PCN (did not say who the driver was)........."
"For more info, my appeal was: I had a parking session valid for X:XX, the time of the alleged contravention. My receipt is attached, showing parking began two minutes prior at X:XX."
Just checking - the above seem contradictory - does the ppc know who the driver was?0 -
Coupon-mad said:So it was headed Parking Charge Notice (...not Penalty Notice)?
Keeper appeals saying that it's non-PoFA therefore no keeper liability. Keeper wins!0 -
Coupon-mad said:So it was headed Parking Charge Notice (...not Penalty Notice)?
Keeper appeals saying that it's non-PoFA therefore no keeper liability. Keeper wins!
Am I still able to appeal to PoPLA based on not relevant land, bylaws apply as per above comment? Presume I can just use a template from this forum?0
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