Debt advice - Jumped the gun with IVA, Relationship complication

Hi everyone, I'm looking for some guidance if possible.

My total debt is around £28,000, and I'm a few months behind on two loans and three credit cards (I’ve only just received a default notice this month). I explored an IVA because I’ve been unable to make full payments to my creditors following a substantial increase in my mortgage last September due to the BOE rate changes — the increase was £600 per month.

I’ve been working with PayPlan and have a creditors' meeting scheduled for 29 May. However, I’m now having second thoughts and wonder if I’ve gone for quite an extreme option. My relationship has also been affected by the debt situation, and I’m not sure it will survive. If we end up selling the house, I’m concerned that the debt plus IVA fees could completely wipe out any equity I’d be entitled to — which would make starting over much more difficult.

Reading through the forums, I’ve seen that some people are self-managing a DRP and offering token payments to their creditors. Could this be a better option, considering how my circumstances are changing? And do any of you have experience or thoughts on whether I might have jumped into an IVA too quickly?

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  • Grumpelstiltskin
    Grumpelstiltskin Posts: 5,311 Forumite
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    Yes you have jumped too quickly, you need to check all possible avenues before you agree to an IVA.

    Cancel now, today, and come back for further help.
    If you go down to the woods today you better not go alone.
  • Thank you for this. I suspected I may have jumped straight to the most severe option.

    I’ve contacted PayPlan to request that this action be paused. I’d greatly appreciate any guidance on the next steps to take. I’ve started looking into a self managed DRP using the 'NED' Citizens Advise website, which seems to come highly recommended on these forums.

  • Grumpelstiltskin
    Grumpelstiltskin Posts: 5,311 Forumite
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    If you are going to go self managed you need to stop paying all unsecured debts and wait for them to default, in the mean time save as much as you can towards a fund to cover emergencies and possible settlements.

    Token payments just prolong the agony, so don't do them.

    Do you have any joint accounts with your partner? are they named on the mortgage?

    Answer these questions please.
    If you go down to the woods today you better not go alone.
  • OK, thank you — I won’t make any token payments at this time.

    We have a joint account for bills and another for food shopping, but my debts are not with the banks these accounts are held with.

    We also have a joint mortgage. The debt has been a point of tension, which ties into the relationship issues I mentioned earlier. This is partly why I wanted to pause the IVA — depending on whether we’re able to resolve things, the long-term outcome might be that we have to sell the house if we separate.

  • ManyWays
    ManyWays Posts: 1,120 Forumite
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    You definitely do not want an IVA if your relationship is rocky and the house may have to be sold.

    In addition to Grump's questions, can you post a Statement Of Affairs please. https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php

     
  • Thank you here is the Statement of Affairs as requested:

    Statement of Affairs & Personal Balance Sheet

    Summary

    Monthly Budget SummaryAmount(£)
    Total monthly income2,018
    Monthly expenses (incl. HP & secured loans)1,978.54
    Available for debt repayments39.46
    UNsecured debt repayments0
    Amount left after debt repayments39.46

    Personal Balance Sheet SummaryAmount(£)
    Total Assets (things you own)403,000
    Total Secured & HP Debt-334,593
    Total Unsecured Debt-25,895
    Net Assets42,512

    Household Information

    Number of adults in household2
    Number of children in household0
    Number of cars owned0

    Income, Expense, Debt & Asset Details

    IncomeAmount(£)
    Monthly income after tax2018
    Partners monthly income0
    Benefits0
    Other income0
    Total monthly income2018

    ExpensesAmount(£)
    Mortgage1051
    Secured/HP loan payments0
    Rent0
    Management charge (leasehold property)0
    Council tax100
    Electricity42
    Gas42
    Oil0
    Water Rates30
    Telephone (land line)0
    Mobile phone174
    TV Licence15
    Satellite/Cable TV92
    Internet services53
    Groceries etc.220
    Clothing50
    Petrol/diesel0
    Road tax0
    Car Insurance0
    Car maintenance (including MOT)0
    Car Parking0
    Other travel40
    Childcare/nursery0
    Other child related expenses0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentists, opticians etc.)20
    Pet Insurance/Vet bills0
    Buildings Insurance14.54
    Contents Insurance0
    Life Assurance25
    Other Insurance0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc.)10
    Haircuts0
    Entertainment0
    Holiday0
    Emergency Fund0
    Total monthly expenses1978.54

    Secured & HP Debt DescriptionDebt(£)Monthly(£)APR(%)
    Mortgage334593(1051)0
    Secured & HP Debt totals334593--

    Unsecured Debt DescriptionDebt(£)Monthly(£)APR(%)
    Marks & Spencer Loan1348900
    Tesco Bank Loan691300
    Creation Loan46200
    Paypal Credit99200
    MBNA Card78400
    John Lewis Card122400
    Dividebuy Loan203100
    Unsecured Debt totals258950-

    Asset DescriptionValue (£)
    Cash0
    House Value (Gross)403000
    Shares and bonds0
    Car(s)0
    Other assets (e.g. endowments, jewellery etc)0
    Total Assets403000

  • For context I have added my percentage of the household expenditure (30%).
  • fatbelly
    fatbelly Posts: 22,663 Forumite
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    An IVA is a 5 or 6 year plan and if you sell property during the term you could easily end up paying the debts in full plus the IP fees. 

    On your soa I cannot see how you can make any sensible offer of payment.

    How much are Payplan proposing that you pay?
  • The payment I was going to make to Pay Plan in the IVA was £61.00.
  • There would be some wiggle room in my contribution to food shopping/the travel cost (petrol), but yes I agree that amount would be tight.
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