Changing rota's without informing.

Bob2000

My nephew works in a supermarket  part time which he's been with for 3 years and since he's had a new dept manager his rotas are being changed online without informing  him or his colleges.

I've  always thought  that once rotas are displayed  on his work app they can't be touched  for 3 weeks  unless  you agree to the changes?

A few times he's gone to work and been told  that he's not in or to early /late. Even when he's got a photoshot of the original  rotas.

Can he insisted  on working  from the earlier  original  rota times?

Thanks anybody that know.

EnPointe

this is a contractual matter 

flaneurs_lobster

Sounds like a particularly stupid way to run a department but yes, it's down to what the contract says about work hours allocation.

LightFlare

How far in advance of the shift are the changes being made ?

After the first time, (or at least the 2nd) I would think he would have thought to himself to check the night/day before and check for any changes

TELLIT01

LightFlare said:

How far in advance of the shift are the changes being made ?

After the first time, (or at least the 2nd) I would think he would have thought to himself to check the night/day before and check for any changes

Is it reasonable to change rotas so often that staff have to check every day to find out when their next shift is?  Nobody's life should revolve around an ever changing shift rota.  That makes it impossible plan anything outside work.  The problem isn't the staff, it's an utterly incompetent manager.

FlorayG

I believe employers have to give notice of a change of shift. That would mean a 'phone call or email, not just changing it on the rota

MeteredOut

FlorayG said:

I believe employers have to give notice of a change of shift. That would mean a 'phone call or email, not just changing it on the rota

The OP is looking for fact here. It would be handy if you could cite a reference for this belief.

gwynlas

Even if there was a fixed rota there is usually a get out clause of meeting the needs of the service.

Your nephew should be checking his rota regularly and as long as it does not interfere with other committments go with the flow.

He should be able to talk to his manager if changes are being made a very short notice and perhaps say that he cannot make the change requested. It could be that either the management is very lenient towards certain staff or see your nephew as a flexible asset they can use to their advantage.

LightFlare

TELLIT01 said:

LightFlare said:

How far in advance of the shift are the changes being made ?

After the first time, (or at least the 2nd) I would think he would have thought to himself to check the night/day before and check for any changes

Is it reasonable to change rotas so often that staff have to check every day to find out when their next shift is?  Nobody's life should revolve around an ever changing shift rota.  That makes it impossible plan anything outside work.  The problem isn't the staff, it's an utterly incompetent manager.

Not at all reasonable - but knowing there is some “history” doesn’t mean some level of proactive measures can’t be taken whilst the bigger issue is resolved.

The OP hasn’t mentioned how far in advance the changes have been made - hence my asking as the response will govern how reasonable or not the changes are

Undervalued

Bob2000 said:

My nephew works in a supermarket  part time which he's been with for 3 years and since he's had a new dept manager his rotas are being changed online without informing  him or his colleges.

I've  always thought  that once rotas are displayed  on his work app they can't be touched  for 3 weeks  unless  you agree to the changes?

A few times he's gone to work and been told  that he's not in or to early /late. Even when he's got a photoshot of the original  rotas.

Can he insisted  on working  from the earlier  original  rota times?

Thanks anybody that know.

That might be your (and perhaps some other) employer's policy but the law is not that specific.

In the absence of a clear policy, which might make it a contractual entitlement, it would come down to our old legal friend of what is reasonable!

EnPointe

TELLIT01 said:

LightFlare said:

How far in advance of the shift are the changes being made ?

After the first time, (or at least the 2nd) I would think he would have thought to himself to check the night/day before and check for any changes

Is it reasonable to change rotas so often that staff have to check every day to find out when their next shift is?  Nobody's life should revolve around an ever changing shift rota.  That makes it impossible plan anything outside work.  The problem isn't the staff, it's an utterly incompetent manager.

There is nothing in law that sets specific  notice  in place for shift patterns  (  vs the requirements  and  exceptions related to daily and weekly  rest periods etc ) 

This is part of the stuff around  restricting / removing  Zero Hours contracts in the Employment Rights Bill, as  some employers employ  ( or  engage  Workers  through an agency ) people on  zero hours or  unrealistically low Minimum  Guaranteed hours contracts and then  'require' / coerce  people to work more hours at short notice ( with the punsihment for not doing so  being last in line for  more work than the contracted hours ) ...