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UC claim with personal injury compensation bare trust problem

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  • TimeLord1
    TimeLord1 Posts: 953 Forumite
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    edited 19 May at 9:59PM
    Since the DWP is already aware of the compensation and its placement in a trust, they should, in principle, continue to disregard these funds during your transition to UC. 

    Have you signed out and signed in again also.

    Put in £0.00
  • HillStreetBlues
    HillStreetBlues Posts: 6,053 Forumite
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    Evaboo100 said:
    Evaboo100 said:
    Evaboo100 said:
    I think it's just badly worded, it might become clear on the next screen (after continue), as it will be a mixture of did or do depending on what it is.
    Income wouldn't really matter, as it's in a PI Trust any income is disregarded, money taken out of the Trust would just be classed as capital.

    When I click continue, that's it done. That section is then completed 😔
    Then it's certainly sounds like it should be "did" rather that "do" as you have pointed out and the wording is incorrect

    True, but if I add the full compensation figure, it'll look like that money is coming to me regularly.

    There's a Citizens Advice number to call for help with completing the claim over the phone, but from previous experience with them, they won't know what to do either 😔
    I wouldn't think so as there is no question about frequency of payments, so for me it can only be a one off payment.
    But even if it they thought it was more than one payment, it would still be disregarded as it's a PI in a Trust.

    It would be handy if you can report anything find, as I will be setting up a PI Trust in I hope the not to distant future.
    If you would like to share how setting up a PI Trust bank account went and who with I would be grateful as most info on here is fairly outdated.

    Trouble is, that second pic is so ambiguous, and covers any type of compensation coming in, not just P.I awards. What a nightmare.

    I can share info on setting up. 
    Shall I PM you?
    I think what you said would be best, once claim open put message on journal, hopefully someone with some knowledge will read it.
    Yes, or post it on here if if you don't  mind, whatever you most feel at east at.
    Let's Be Careful Out There
  • Evaboo100
    Evaboo100 Posts: 20 Forumite
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    edited 19 May at 10:50PM
    TimeLord1 said:
    Since the DWP is already aware of the compensation and its placement in a trust, they should, in principle, continue to disregard these funds during your transition to UC. 

    Have you signed out and signed in again also.

    Put in £0.00

    I tried adding £0.00, but the form won't let me go forward, stating to add a figure. 

    I did sign in and out a few times, as I was automatically logged out after some time had passed.
  • Evaboo100
    Evaboo100 Posts: 20 Forumite
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    Evaboo100 said:
    Evaboo100 said:
    Evaboo100 said:
    I think it's just badly worded, it might become clear on the next screen (after continue), as it will be a mixture of did or do depending on what it is.
    Income wouldn't really matter, as it's in a PI Trust any income is disregarded, money taken out of the Trust would just be classed as capital.

    When I click continue, that's it done. That section is then completed 😔
    Then it's certainly sounds like it should be "did" rather that "do" as you have pointed out and the wording is incorrect

    True, but if I add the full compensation figure, it'll look like that money is coming to me regularly.

    There's a Citizens Advice number to call for help with completing the claim over the phone, but from previous experience with them, they won't know what to do either 😔
    I wouldn't think so as there is no question about frequency of payments, so for me it can only be a one off payment.
    But even if it they thought it was more than one payment, it would still be disregarded as it's a PI in a Trust.

    It would be handy if you can report anything find, as I will be setting up a PI Trust in I hope the not to distant future.
    If you would like to share how setting up a PI Trust bank account went and who with I would be grateful as most info on here is fairly outdated.

    Trouble is, that second pic is so ambiguous, and covers any type of compensation coming in, not just P.I awards. What a nightmare.

    I can share info on setting up. 
    Shall I PM you?
    I think what you said would be best, once claim open put message on journal, hopefully someone with some knowledge will read it.
    Yes, or post it on here if if you don't  mind, whatever you most feel at east at.

    Hi  I've sent you a private message.
  • TimeLord1
    TimeLord1 Posts: 953 Forumite
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    Evaboo100 said:
    TimeLord1 said:
    Since the DWP is already aware of the compensation and its placement in a trust, they should, in principle, continue to disregard these funds during your transition to UC. 

    Have you signed out and signed in again also.

    Put in £0.00

    I tried adding £0.00, but the form won't let me go forward, stating to add a figure. 

    I did sign in and out a few times, as I was automatically logged out after some time had passed.
    That's odd.  I think the gateway has crashed currently also. I know it disliked just 0 but never known it to dispute £0.00
  • Newcad
    Newcad Posts: 1,775 Forumite
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    edited 20 May at 9:43AM
    Just to double check - You are actually putting "0.00" and not just "0" ?
    I had a similar problem with a 'Report your Earnings' UC form in the past where putting a single 0 would not let you Continue and submit the form - but put in the pence (ie. 0.00) and it Continued without problem.
  • Evaboo100
    Evaboo100 Posts: 20 Forumite
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    UPDATE:

    I've just got off the phone from UC.

    The advisor agreed that the question causes problems, and they'd had someone else call in today in the same situation. Apparently the question is quite new.

    The advisor couldn't see a workaround either.
    They said they'll contact Zendesk for a solution, and they got a response while I was on the phone.

    The advice given is to NOT tick the compensation payments box for disregarded P.I trusts (because the follow on question is concerning any type of compensation payments still coming in)

    The agent said that when my claim starts and the journal is open, if I want to, I can go into raising a query for a case manager and state info there about the trust. 
    Or I can explain at the jobcentre when my identity check is done etc.
    I'll do the former so that the job coach doesn't mess up my claim.
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