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Gran only on rent, how to avoid being rehomed

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  • Bookworm225
    Bookworm225 Posts: 393 Forumite
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    Marcon said:
    was gran really the tenant from when it was first built 85 years ago as that would make her approaching 105 years old
    did she in fact take over the tenancy from her own parents?
    was grandfather ever on the tenancy?

    importantly, is this still an actual direct council tenancy or is it now via a housing association ("social landlord")?

    If still council, she is probably a "regulated" tenant which is important as that carries rights that are no longer available to more recent tenants, most importantly it still allows a tenancy "inherited" from someone else to passed on to a family member 

    you need to take advice from people who really know this stuff as it can be quite complex, try talking to Shelter

    Regulated tenancies - Shelter England
    If you read the link you've given, it starts with the following, which seems a bit at odds with your comment that 'if still council...':

    Regulated tenants have strong rights.

    You probably have a regulated tenancy if:

    • you pay rent to a private landlord and

    • your tenancy started before 15 January 1989

    the point I was alluding to is that upon transfer to a housing association a regulated tenancy could have been changed. Fell free to go and criticise that comment, you might add something to the thread,
  • Jude57
    Jude57 Posts: 743 Forumite
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    Marcon said:
    was gran really the tenant from when it was first built 85 years ago as that would make her approaching 105 years old
    did she in fact take over the tenancy from her own parents?
    was grandfather ever on the tenancy?

    importantly, is this still an actual direct council tenancy or is it now via a housing association ("social landlord")?

    If still council, she is probably a "regulated" tenant which is important as that carries rights that are no longer available to more recent tenants, most importantly it still allows a tenancy "inherited" from someone else to passed on to a family member 

    you need to take advice from people who really know this stuff as it can be quite complex, try talking to Shelter

    Regulated tenancies - Shelter England
    If you read the link you've given, it starts with the following, which seems a bit at odds with your comment that 'if still council...':

    Regulated tenants have strong rights.

    You probably have a regulated tenancy if:

    • you pay rent to a private landlord and

    • your tenancy started before 15 January 1989

    the point I was alluding to is that upon transfer to a housing association a regulated tenancy could have been changed. Fell free to go and criticise that comment, you might add something to the thread,
    For what it's worth, and it's only my experience, my tenancy status didn't change as my landlord changed over almost 20 years from Council to Housing Association (in reality an Arms Length Management Organisation) and back to Council. I've even still got the correspondence confirming as much. More recently begun tenancies are offered on different terms, as I understaord it, but older tenancies like mine seem to have been protected.

    In the OP's case, I would wonder whether the tenancy has already been succeeded in the past. What I mean is, If granddad (not mentioned so perhaps not relevant) was the original, sole named tenant and he died or left, grandma might have succeeded to the tenancy at that time. Some Housing Associations and Councils have rules about how many times a tenancy can be succeeded but the only way to find that out is to ask the landlord or look at information that may be in their website. 
  • Bookworm225
    Bookworm225 Posts: 393 Forumite
    100 Posts Name Dropper
    Jude57 said:
    Marcon said:
    was gran really the tenant from when it was first built 85 years ago as that would make her approaching 105 years old
    did she in fact take over the tenancy from her own parents?
    was grandfather ever on the tenancy?

    importantly, is this still an actual direct council tenancy or is it now via a housing association ("social landlord")?

    If still council, she is probably a "regulated" tenant which is important as that carries rights that are no longer available to more recent tenants, most importantly it still allows a tenancy "inherited" from someone else to passed on to a family member 

    you need to take advice from people who really know this stuff as it can be quite complex, try talking to Shelter

    Regulated tenancies - Shelter England
    If you read the link you've given, it starts with the following, which seems a bit at odds with your comment that 'if still council...':

    Regulated tenants have strong rights.

    You probably have a regulated tenancy if:

    • you pay rent to a private landlord and

    • your tenancy started before 15 January 1989

    the point I was alluding to is that upon transfer to a housing association a regulated tenancy could have been changed. Fell free to go and criticise that comment, you might add something to the thread,
    In the OP's case, I would wonder whether the tenancy has already been succeeded in the past. What I mean is, If granddad (not mentioned so perhaps not relevant) was the original, sole named tenant and he died or left, grandma might have succeeded to the tenancy at that time. Some Housing Associations and Councils have rules about how many times a tenancy can be succeeded but the only way to find that out is to ask the landlord or look at information that may be in their website. 
    exactly the point I raised in reply #2 on this thread
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