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G24/DCB Legal - Claim Form Received - Meadowhall Retail

Hi All,

I have a very similar case to the below thread in the sense that it is the same location, same contravention reason, same claim form date and dealing with the same companies. However, a key difference is I have not yet got the landowner to cancel the fine, but I did submit the request today.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6597366/g24-dcb-legal-letter-of-claim/p1

Similar to the above thread, I had absolutely no idea this fine existed until December 2024 when DCBL sent me a final reminder. I ignored this request, as I thought you've got to be taking the !!!!!! trying it on nearly 5 years later. It's also worth noting that at the time I was receiving multiple final reminders relating to a set of x8 fines from UKPC - now at LOC stage for context - which I was aware of. I assumed DCBL were using the Meadowhall fine as a scare tactic to make me crumble on the UKPC case, hence why I did not take it seriously.

Fast forward 4 months and I received the below Claim Form. I do not recall receiving a LOC or LBC, which seems wrong to me? Or maybe it got lost in the 100 other letters they were sending me at the time.

I am not 100% confident in the steps I was supposed to take in this process, but a mix of ChatGPT and these forums led me to decide on submitting the AOS today (03/05/25) online - I know it's a little late - and I also submitted a SAR request today to G24, as I have so little information, however I am unsure if this was the correct move?

I can see in the newbie forum there is a template defence, however from what I have gathered there 1-2 paragraphs that I need to tailor to my defence, so what would you advise me to centre my defence around given my circumstances? I assume it will help if I can get the landowner to cancel the fine as a minimum? Also presumably the SAR will help, but I know that could take 30 days, which is too long. Some advice on timing would be greatly appreciated too, when should I submit the defence?





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  • Gr1pr
    Gr1pr Posts: 6,736 Forumite
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    edited 3 May at 5:12PM
    Forget about ChatGPT

    Its definitely NOT a fine,  it was an invoice from G24

    Forget about the LoC stage, deal with the present only

    The claimant had 6 years to issue a court claim,  so stored them up and so now we are seeing scores of claims

    Definitely complete the AOS online on MCOL , no need to delay it 

    27th of May is your deadline for submitting the defence by email 

    Your defence rebuts the POC,  not the circumstances,  so adapt paragraphs 2 & 3 same as everyone else 

    Ideally you should not have emailed a SAR to G24,  not yet, i would have said do it after your local civil court is dealing with it,  if you had asked us first 
  • compgo1996
    compgo1996 Posts: 4 Newbie
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    So presumably my defence is going to be quite generic then as far as these forums go?

    when should I submit my defence? Any time or leave it later, I’ve already submitted the AOS today via MCOL.

    noted about the SAR, what is the risk or disadvantage that I have done it now?

    thanks.
  • Gr1pr
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    edited 3 May at 6:13PM
    Generic,  correct,  dealing with the POC and nothing else , as it should be 

    Anytime its completed,  approved and ready to go  !  Simple  ( within the next 3 weeks   )

    Without the extra knowledge,  you have plausible deniability,  sometimes a SAR enlightens you, but you can't unknow what you eventually know   ( or find out , curiosity killed the cat )

    Also, you dont need the information at this early stage

  • Coupon-mad
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    Just use the template defence and/or copy what another G24 claim thread poster put.
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