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CIS construction industry - is it worth it

reallysotiredofitall
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I have been working for over 39 years in construction, both in the UK and abroad. The industry in the UK has changed significantly since i first started here over 2 decades ago. There used to be a lot of incentive to get people to work the long hours, through the snow and ice and wind and rain, in the mud and filth, doing an inherently dangerous job with the potential of long term occupational health issues attached. To get people to do this pay packets ( wages / salaries ) where higher than most other industries. Incentives where in place and construction work was considered to be a good occupational choice, with sufficient scope to support a family and live an average life.
That has all changed, slowly but surely over the last 15 years. The easiest way to see this is the dwindling number of young people coming into this industry, and so many in the industry doing all they can to get out. Wages have stagnated for more than a decade , with employment agencies making bigger profits off out sourcing contract workers , swallowing up any potential growth in income, and at the same time even reducing the wages they pay there contract staff. CITB , under the banner of health and safety , come up with ever more courses that have to be completed for people to work on sites, not mandatory courses, but rather made up courses that have to be paid for by the contractors, simply to generate wealth for the privately owned citb. With IR35 amendments taking away almost all the ltd work contractors could do, lawfully, because the end client simply does not understand what inside or outside IR35 means the means to claim back training expenses evaporates. The construction industry is the only industry in the UK where training becomes invalidated after between 1 and 5 years and has to be redone. Once again generating more money for the training programs owned by the construction industry, all at the expense of the workers. I recently found out that people who are paid cis ( construction industry scheme ) are classed the same as those who work as a LTD company and are not eligible for National Insurance claims, despite having worked and paid taxes for most of there lives, there is no help for them. The construction industry has become the worst industry to work in, with every body from government to private training companies , from employment agencies to construction companies sucking the marrow out of the bones of this industry and , quite frankly , killing it. leaving the people who build our country out in the cold , bullied, deprived, dis enfranchised , not wanting to work any longer.
This industry ( the construction industry ) is more dangerous than working in the military , with more injuries and deaths per capita than the military, this industry has the highest suicide rate of any industry, venture, government department etc, construction also has the highest rate of occupational health issues of any industry. And every body is trying to take a cut, a chunk, as much as they can get there hands on, with very little left for the workers in the industry. Many are earning less today , 2025, than they where earning in 2015, 10 years ago.
So to my question, is there any hope left for British workers in the construction industry, or will all be replaced by foreigners , willing to work for peanuts, unskilled, untrained, with all occupational health issues being blamed on the countries they originate from and giving this industry a blank slate ?
Will the CITB and construction companies, the government and employment agencies, driven by greed alone, finally drive the nails into the coffin of our industry whilst firmly focused on there astounding greed
That has all changed, slowly but surely over the last 15 years. The easiest way to see this is the dwindling number of young people coming into this industry, and so many in the industry doing all they can to get out. Wages have stagnated for more than a decade , with employment agencies making bigger profits off out sourcing contract workers , swallowing up any potential growth in income, and at the same time even reducing the wages they pay there contract staff. CITB , under the banner of health and safety , come up with ever more courses that have to be completed for people to work on sites, not mandatory courses, but rather made up courses that have to be paid for by the contractors, simply to generate wealth for the privately owned citb. With IR35 amendments taking away almost all the ltd work contractors could do, lawfully, because the end client simply does not understand what inside or outside IR35 means the means to claim back training expenses evaporates. The construction industry is the only industry in the UK where training becomes invalidated after between 1 and 5 years and has to be redone. Once again generating more money for the training programs owned by the construction industry, all at the expense of the workers. I recently found out that people who are paid cis ( construction industry scheme ) are classed the same as those who work as a LTD company and are not eligible for National Insurance claims, despite having worked and paid taxes for most of there lives, there is no help for them. The construction industry has become the worst industry to work in, with every body from government to private training companies , from employment agencies to construction companies sucking the marrow out of the bones of this industry and , quite frankly , killing it. leaving the people who build our country out in the cold , bullied, deprived, dis enfranchised , not wanting to work any longer.
This industry ( the construction industry ) is more dangerous than working in the military , with more injuries and deaths per capita than the military, this industry has the highest suicide rate of any industry, venture, government department etc, construction also has the highest rate of occupational health issues of any industry. And every body is trying to take a cut, a chunk, as much as they can get there hands on, with very little left for the workers in the industry. Many are earning less today , 2025, than they where earning in 2015, 10 years ago.
So to my question, is there any hope left for British workers in the construction industry, or will all be replaced by foreigners , willing to work for peanuts, unskilled, untrained, with all occupational health issues being blamed on the countries they originate from and giving this industry a blank slate ?
Will the CITB and construction companies, the government and employment agencies, driven by greed alone, finally drive the nails into the coffin of our industry whilst firmly focused on there astounding greed
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