Electric Oven Self Cleaning

caveman38

After 50 years we're going electric. This is forced because of no replacement gas ovens. 
Our dilemma is not what oven but what self cleaning methods manufacturer uses. Pyrolytic, steam and other methods are employed.
Any advice welcomed as to their effectiveness, costs and dangers would be welcomed.

silvercar

My oven has self cleaning mode, everything has to come out, including the side bars that hold the shelves. These removable pieces then need cleaning themselves. 

subjecttocontract

We have a 'self cleaning' oven but we still get the oven professionally cleaned annually for £50. Our Neff self cleaning oven doesng self clean the whole oven to our satisfaction. The door, the shelves, the trays, the light et c all need extra cleaning. I suspect many other makes are the same. It depends on your expectations.

flaneurs_lobster

I've seen ovens where the self-cleaning does work - in professional kitchens where the combi-ovens typically cost £5k and upwards (and quite often run on a 400v supply).

Normal domestic ovens - nah.

Effician

Having just gone through the which new oven shall i buy saga i did look into the cleaning methods a little as plenty of info online.

Steam clean models still need a certain amount of manual cleaning as well.

Catalytic plates are self cleaning when oven is above 200c in normal usage but are only effective on fats etc , not so on sugars. the surface is quite rough so manual cleaning is not easy.

Pyrolytic plates need a special cycle with all racks & side rails removed , the oven is heated upto 500c at this temp  the organic deposits turn to ash & drop off . heating to this temp & for a good length of time has a energy cost.

Both catalytic & pyrolitic dont allways have full coverage inside the oven.

In the end i bought on cost first  , function second , energy efficiency third with  cleaning last  & bought a AEG A+ steambake with catalytic plates , must say i'm very pleased with it .

DullGreyGuy

Effician said:

Pyrolytic plates need a special cycle with all racks & side rails removed , the oven is heated upto 500c at this temp  the organic deposits turn to ash & drop off . heating to this temp & for a good length of time has a energy cost.

Our pyrolytic oven you can leave in the racks, side rails and rail extenders, indeed we replaced the racks from our steam oven so they can go into the pyrolytic oven too for cleaning. 

caveman38 said:

After 50 years we're going electric. This is forced because of no replacement gas ovens. 
Our dilemma is not what oven but what self cleaning methods manufacturer uses. Pyrolytic, steam and other methods are employed.
Any advice welcomed as to their effectiveness, costs and dangers would be welcomed.

Why are there no replacement gas ovens? Can't say I've had a gas oven since childhood but there are plenty for sale still. 

A lot depends on how you use your oven and how dirty it gets. Our steam combi has a steam clean mode and its ok on the dirt/debris from steam cooking but wife uses it a lot for cooking smaller quantities inc grilling bacon, roasting small joints etc and the steam doesnt do much for removing burnt on fat and sugars

Our large oven has pyrolytic and you can leave the hardware in the oven other than the grill pan. It certainly works much better than the steam cleaning but still not perfect. I've never checked the electric meter but clearly heating to 500C and then holding that does take a fair amount of energy (but then so does oven spray and scrubbing, just not electrical)

Effician

DullGreyGuy said:

Effician said:

Pyrolytic plates need a special cycle with all racks & side rails removed , the oven is heated upto 500c at this temp  the organic deposits turn to ash & drop off . heating to this temp & for a good length of time has a energy cost.

Our pyrolytic oven you can leave in the racks, side rails and rail extenders, indeed we replaced the racks from our steam oven so they can go into the pyrolytic oven too for cleaning. 

caveman38 said:

After 50 years we're going electric. This is forced because of no replacement gas ovens. 
Our dilemma is not what oven but what self cleaning methods manufacturer uses. Pyrolytic, steam and other methods are employed.
Any advice welcomed as to their effectiveness, costs and dangers would be welcomed.

 

A lot depends on how you use your oven and how dirty it gets. Our steam combi has a steam clean mode and its ok on the dirt/debris from steam cooking but wife uses it a lot for cooking smaller quantities inc grilling bacon, roasting small joints etc and the steam doesnt do much for removing burnt on fat and sugars

That's why when choosing our new oven the cleaning method was last on the list, it's mainly used for baking & very low temp (with probe) cooking of joints so no spitting of fats etc.

The dirty jobs are done in the oldest beat up air fryer, bacon ,roast chicken pork crackling etc.

Albermarle

Effician said:

DullGreyGuy said:

Effician said:

Pyrolytic plates need a special cycle with all racks & side rails removed , the oven is heated upto 500c at this temp  the organic deposits turn to ash & drop off . heating to this temp & for a good length of time has a energy cost.

Our pyrolytic oven you can leave in the racks, side rails and rail extenders, indeed we replaced the racks from our steam oven so they can go into the pyrolytic oven too for cleaning. 

caveman38 said:

After 50 years we're going electric. This is forced because of no replacement gas ovens. 
Our dilemma is not what oven but what self cleaning methods manufacturer uses. Pyrolytic, steam and other methods are employed.
Any advice welcomed as to their effectiveness, costs and dangers would be welcomed.

 

A lot depends on how you use your oven and how dirty it gets. Our steam combi has a steam clean mode and its ok on the dirt/debris from steam cooking but wife uses it a lot for cooking smaller quantities inc grilling bacon, roasting small joints etc and the steam doesnt do much for removing burnt on fat and sugars

That's why when choosing our new oven the cleaning method was last on the list, it's mainly used for baking & very low temp (with probe) cooking of joints so no spitting of fats etc.

The dirty jobs are done in the oldest beat up air fryer, bacon ,roast chicken pork crackling etc.

I was going to say something similar that many peoples electric ( or gas ) ovens do not get used as much as they used to, due to the use of air fryers for smaller/messier jobs.
So they only need cleaning very occasionally.

caveman38

DullgGreyGuy said:  Why are there no replacement gas ovens? Can't say I've had a gas oven since childhood but there are plenty for sale still. 

Would you advise where you've seen the. I saw them on both Stoves and Belling site. But they are unavailable and supposedly will not be made either.

sheramber

A Google search for ‘gas oven’ brought up several options.

Whether in stock I didn’t check

victor2

Out of curiosity I looked on ao.com for gas powered ovens and a wide selection came up. Available for delivery too.