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  • Grumpelstiltskin
    Grumpelstiltskin Posts: 5,418 Forumite
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    I was under the impression that the SOA was for our own calculations and not the creditors, under a self-managed DMP? 
    You are not forced to show your  SOA to any  creditor, some will ask you.

    You need  to stop paying all of the unsecured debts , do you have any joint accounts with your partner?  if so their credit record will be effected.

    Then  you need to get a basic ( no overdraft ) account with a bank you don't owe money to, you need to transfer all vital direct debits manually, don't use banking switch service as it will transfer non vital payments.

    Then you need to live without using credit and start to save an emergency fund.

    Don't engage with your creditors, ignore phone calls and block numbers, ignore E Mails and texts but open any letters you receive by snail mail.

    Then you wait for defaults to appear on your credit repot.

    Keep coming on here for help as from now on things financially will be very different.
    If you go down to the woods today you better not go alone.
  • Tryingtofly11
    Tryingtofly11 Posts: 9 Forumite
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    Ok, thank you. Those cards are all in either mine or husband’s name so it’s a joint controlled explosion. 
    I’m very thankful for all help now and in the future.
  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 35,543 Forumite
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    Doing an SOA is purely for your benefit. 

    Going down the line, if you engage in a DMP even with with a free provider they will look at your accounts and could query payments to adult children. So shared utilities are less likely to be queried but 4 phone accounts would be, as would food for 4 people, unless there is some income from those people.

    Hopefully you could run self-managed DMP with less scrutiny but high food costs and £500 to support an 'adult' child's activities could cause issues with debt providers. If they get arsey and go for CCJ's you might have to provide supporting evidence.
     
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,507 Ambassador
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    Bottom line is your budget is your budget, no one has cause to query anything on it unless you are in a regulated  insolvency solution, which you are not.

    Creditors have no recourse to question anything you spend money on, which is why its always best to never share your budget with any creditor, thus avoiding the issue entirely.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Tryingtofly11
    Tryingtofly11 Posts: 9 Forumite
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    Thank you, all. Good to know. I will post again and ask for advice with next steps when we get there. Thanks so much again.
  • SPM87
    SPM87 Posts: 40 Forumite
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    RAS said:
    If they get arsey and go for CCJ's you might have to provide supporting evidence.
     
    this is scaremongering... this simply don't really happen in most cases. How many CCJs are even "enforced" if you have a house they will go for some kind of Charging Order and let it sit there.

    Got a friend with 2 CCJs and ignored everything.. the CCJs have not been enforced after 3 years so far.. what they waiting for? even in the event of an attachment of earning you can reject it, fil out the court form manually and the judge signs off what he thinks is reasonable based on the numbers you provide
  • bazdvd
    bazdvd Posts: 113 Forumite
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    they dont happen in most cases yet your friend has 2?
  • fatbelly
    fatbelly Posts: 22,931 Forumite
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    Rule of thumb is about 1 in 10 debts see court action. 

    Friend probably had 20 debts
  • SPM87
    SPM87 Posts: 40 Forumite
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    fatbelly said:
    Rule of thumb is about 1 in 10 debts see court action. 

    Friend probably had 20 debts
    he has about 5... and I am talking about CCJ enforcement, with the view being "made" to provide supporting evidence?

    Too many people seem to be dishing out comments based on not really knowing what really goes on. Like I said my friend has 2 CCJs on his file and not one has "enforced" them after 3 years he ignored it (which is silly) but despite his silly behaviour of ignoring court forms the DCA has not enforced either of. 


  • fatbelly
    fatbelly Posts: 22,931 Forumite
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    A creditor has six years to enforce a ccj
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