Plumbing and Pipe work for downstairs toilet quote

jblakes

Morning all,

we have a utility room that sit beneath our bathroom upstairs, we are wanting to install a downstair toilet, We have a door  to the outside and was planning to dig the floor up for the soil pipe and tap into the existing soil pipe outside. But due to the work required the plumber has said its will be easier to install a manhole that connects the downstairs toilet to the main drain, which makes sense because if you didn’t do this you would do over a surface drain.

 

My question is how much would I expect it to cost to install a manhole cover, connect to outside drain and pipe round to the toilet indoors around 3metres away. I will be digging the ground up for manhole and floor internal for soil pipe. He will also use the pipes in bathroom above to bring down for water for toilet and sink. He is also moving a rad around the corner. He has quoted £2.2K does this seem reasonable for the pipework for drain, manhole and pipework for hot/cold water above?

 

Regards James

ButterCheese

Yes that seems entirely reasonable.  If unsure then get another quote; in our experience a local person who works on their own is often much cheaper than a big outfit which has lots of employees. 

But the work needed is very labour intensive so that will push the price up.  Laying and soldering pipework takes time, and all the fittings and joiners, and the copper pipes are now very expensive, the plastic ones aren't cheap either.  And all the ancilliary gear like grouting, sealant, not to mention the hardware itself.

I'd get one more quote if you can, but I would go more on the person rather than their price.  We now have a roofer for life, and a capenter, because they were so nice and professioal and their proces were good.  You hear so many stories about cowboys ripping people off, or just not turning up when they say, or leaving you in the lurch whilst they work on a quick and easy big £$$ job.

Another thing to ask is approx how long it will take - you can then see if the price and the time work out.  e.g. we paid 5 grand for our roof - but they had 3 men here for 5 full days, and that's not including the cost of all the tiles and joists.

sheenas

Without photo's i wondering why it would be easier to run underground piping than simply cut into the soil stack? Cutting into the stack would be less than a day while digging stuff up is one man day per 3m and then putting everything back, so maybe a weeks work. I would get another quote for doing the soil stack rather than digging

FreeBear

sheenas said:

Without photo's i wondering why it would be easier to run underground piping than simply cut into the soil stack? Cutting into the stack would be less than a day while digging stuff up is one man day per 3m and then putting everything back, so maybe a weeks work. I would get another quote for doing the soil stack rather than digging

If you go digging to connect to the foul sewer underground, you will need to involve Building Control and get them to sign off on the work.

Connecting to the soil stack shouldn't need any approvals, so you'll save a fair chunk of cash on BC fees on top of the labour & parts needed for an inspection chamber.

jblakes

Evening all, 

I did some digging and found this. We have a open drain and then a inspection chamber about a foot away. They both drain into the same place. What options have i got to get a toilet waste pipe connected? In the third picture where the  extention cable is, the door is and then it will 90degree bend towards where the toilet will be. 

jblakes

Cheeky bump

Etchergifts

I had a similar job done when we added a downstairs toilet a couple of years back. The price did seem steep at first, but after seeing how much digging and connecting to existing drains was involved, plus moving other stuff around like radiators, it made more sense. We got a few quotes too, and some were way higher, but the ones from smaller, local plumbers were a better fit for us. Sometimes rerouting pipes or making new connections is more work than you think If you’re ever doing this sort of thing around Santa Cruz, I know people who’ve used AnytimePlumbing and had a good experience, especially when tackling tricky installations.