Car park fine for a vehicle that I thought had been written off and scrapped by my insurance

Sadgoblin

Do I have a leg to stand on ?

Park maven  fine for a car that was scrapped via no fault accident in April 2024.

Dlva ownership wasn't transfered as I was unaware of correct procedure and took incorrect advice from family, insurance that collected car took the entire form.

 I've also unintentionally paid for this person's road tax for the year, due to stresses going on in my life alot was missed and it's all only been brought to light when I've received car park fines that happened this year in march.
 

Car was obviously not scrapped and redone and sold on, I've already sent evidence to the carpark that I was not the owner of this car and evidence insurance stating as such, I've also now updated dlva that I am not the registered owner, but because this was done after the car park fine was issued park maven  saying iam still liable, so is this correct even though it wasn't me ? 

Should I just be paying it ? need it sorted asap as about to undergo double jaw surgery so don't fancy being dragged into court or baliffs at the door, even if I'm half way across the country to where this carpark fine was issued.

Gr1pr

What does the latest letter say  ?  No personal information,  but post a redacted picture 

Parkmaven dont issue fines,  just invoices from a private parking company 

Definitely do not pay

No bailiffs will be coming round   ( urban myth  )

Any court hearing would be in your local civil court,  although any court claim would likely be discontinued,  especially due to the facts you outlined 

Keep your evidence safe 

Use the BPA AOS members complaints link to complain about it to Parkmaven,  with a copy of the proof of what the dvla stated

Sadgoblin

Gr1pr said:

What does the latest letter say  ?  No personal information,  but post a redacted picture 

Parkmaven dont issue fines,  just invoices from a private parking company 

Definitely do not pay

No bailiffs will be coming round   ( urban myth  )

Any court hearing would be in your local civil court,  although any court claim would likely be discontinued,  especially due to the facts you outlined 

Keep your evidence safe 

Use the BPA AOS members complaints link to complain about it to Parkmaven,  with a copy of the proof of what the dvla stated

So they've rejected my appeal 

Coupon-mad

They haven't.

They've asked for more evidence. Show them more. You aren't bound by the examples they're wittering on about!

The evidence of the no fault accident and an email from the insurer confirming the date they collected the vehicle would be good.

Car1980

Yes, those are loaded questions designed to entrap.

But the problem is that they'll just shout "but you were the keeper", whatever you say.

Unless you provide a name and address of the driver, they won't go away (or at least until they've gone through DCBL letters).

I would provide them with the insurance claim docs and declare the driver as "A. Employee, Acme Insurance Ltd, Address".

Say your liability is now revoked under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2021 Schedule 4 2.1 (b) "of the case of the driver, an address at which the driver for the time being resides or can conveniently be contacted", and; "driver" includes, where more than one person is engaged in the driving of the vehicle, any person so engaged."

Then you've covered yourself and are ready for any unlikely court claim in the future.

Sadgoblin

Coupon-mad said:

They haven't.

They've asked for more evidence. Show them more. You aren't bound by the examples they're wittering on about!

The evidence of the no fault accident and an email from the insurer confirming the date they collected the vehicle would be good.

They've already received all of this, with a letter of my insurance saying I was no longer the owner. They're just ignoring it and now focusing on the keeper aspect. 

Sadgoblin

Car1980 said:

Yes, those are loaded questions designed to entrap.

But the problem is that they'll just shout "but you were the keeper", whatever you say.

Unless you provide a name and address of the driver, they won't go away (or at least until they've gone through DCBL letters).

I would provide them with the insurance claim docs and declare the driver as "A. Employee, Acme Insurance Ltd, Address".

Say your liability is now revoked under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2021 Schedule 4 2.1 (b) "of the case of the driver, an address at which the driver for the time being resides or can conveniently be contacted", and; "driver" includes, where more than one person is engaged in the driving of the vehicle, any person so engaged."

Then you've covered yourself and are ready for any unlikely court claim in the future.

Okay thankyou, I shall do this. 

Sadgoblin

Car1980 said:

Yes, those are loaded questions designed to entrap.

But the problem is that they'll just shout "but you were the keeper", whatever you say.

Unless you provide a name and address of the driver, they won't go away (or at least until they've gone through DCBL letters).

I would provide them with the insurance claim docs and declare the driver as "A. Employee, Acme Insurance Ltd, Address".

Say your liability is now revoked under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2021 Schedule 4 2.1 (b) "of the case of the driver, an address at which the driver for the time being resides or can conveniently be contacted", and; "driver" includes, where more than one person is engaged in the driving of the vehicle, any person so engaged."

Then you've covered yourself and are ready for any unlikely court claim in the future.

Although they've already had all the insurance documents, stating that I'm not longer the owner or in  possession of this car, even sent them photos of the car smashed up lol. 

Coupon-mad

Tell them you will report them to the DVLA if they fail to cancel the PCN.

Tell them it's time to stop playing games and you will also involve your MP and ask him/her to raise this case in the upcoming debate on 6th May:

https://whatson.parliament.uk/event/cal51564

prowla

Tell them you'll be happy to see them in court.