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Bradford Bus Lane PCN - Inadequate Signage

I have received a PCN from Bradford council, it was a surprise to me when I opened the letter as I was unaware I had been in any bus lanes at all. I have googled the exact location and to no surprise it's already been sucessfully and publically challenged, I can't post links but if you google "Driver wins Bradford bus lane appeal over bad signs on Church Bank" you will see the exact article I am referring to.

My case is the exact same, I turned from Peckover Street and because it was busy (peak time as you can see on the PCN) and due to the bad placement of the signs, I was not able to see them. I then had no choice but to enter the bus lane further down the road or risk a dangerous manoeuvre.

I'm looking for advice on how I should go about challenging this, and I want to know if there's any way to access the documents or the judgment made by the adjudicator mentioned in the case I have linked. I can see the man who challenged the PCN was named Anthony Bryce, but I am unsure how I could look through the archives to find such a thing. 

Please can someone with a bit more experience lend me a hand?

Thanks guys!

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  • daveyjp
    daveyjp Posts: 13,397 Forumite
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    This site deals with private tickets.

    However, there have been changes since the successful appeal - which was in 2019 - as a result of this comment:

    "He said: "I agree with Mr Bryce that this sign gives a misleading impression. It is quite possible to have advanced warning signs with a pictogram showing the appropriate signage for the bus gate or bus lane ahead, either using the familiar blue Sign 953 or Sign 619.

    "That has not been done here, I suspect because the restriction in Church Bank changes halfway down, from allowing access, to being bus only, which makes signing the restriction more complicated."


    There is now an advanced warning sign on Peckover Street as you approach Church Bank.  This warns of a bus lane in 140 yards  if you turn left, so that argument may no longer be valid,

    There is then BUS GATE and signage much further down Church Bank with a bus stop which enables vehicles to turn around.  Access to that point is required to service a cafe and St Peter's House.


  • Umkomaas
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    As we major on private parking tickets here, Free Traffic Legal Advice (FTLA) forum will be your best bet for council penalty charges. Register there but please note that a Hotmail address may not work - try using a throwaway Gmail account instead if you do have trouble registering, and post a new thread; here's your link:

    Read the sticky 'Read this first before posting your case' as well as reading through some of the other threads there ahead of posting your own details, to get the hang of what information they need from you in your opening post - but as a minimum you will need to post redacted photos/scans of all correspondence you've received from the council (both sides, if appropriate), as they need to see all the small print.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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