Parking charge from EFIPS

triwizard

Hi, 

I've received a parking charge notice for parking in a 'no parking zone' at a shopping centre. It was on a double yellow line, in a taxi rank, with a no entry signage at the entrance. Although the letter doesn't specifically state any of these things. It just says there was a breach of terms. Is there any way I can appeal this, what could I possibly say? Thankfully the fine is only £30 but I'd rather not pay it if possible. 



I was parked on the left up ahead. 

Gr1pr

Must be a new BPA AOS member,  so study the 5th and 1st post in the newbies sticky thread in announcements near the top of the forum,  3rd thread down 

The charge is £60, not £30

triwizard

Ok thanks will do. I meant £30 if paid within 14 days. 

Gr1pr

triwizard said:

Ok thanks will do. I meant £30 if paid within 14 days. 

Thats correct,  but its the early settlement figure,  not the actual charge,  the pcn is always at £60, never changes 

I would have thought that its forbidden to park there, so no offer   no consideration,  no contract 

triwizard

I would have thought that its forbidden to park there, so no offer   no consideration,  no contract 

Meaning what exactly? I'm wondering if the £30 offer is quite lenient considering the situation. Which is why I asked is it worth appealing at all. Guess I have nothing to lose. 

Gr1pr

I cannot see any observation time   ( consideration period  ),  nor is there a period of parking,  nor can I see any invitations for the keeper to pay 

triwizard

Good catch. Maybe there is hope after all 

triwizard

So I've looked at the newbies thread and the first appeal template titled 



TEMPLATE ''ONE SIZE FITS ALL'' FIRST APPEAL THAT DOESN'T SAY WHO WAS DRIVING:

Is this the one I should be using? Seems rather aggressive 😂. There was a sign upon entry to the area I parked but no signs on posts where the bays where. I guess that's worth mentioning + the points GR1pr mentioned above. Am I on the right track? 

Coupon-mad

triwizard said:

Hi, 

I've received a parking charge notice for parking in a 'no parking zone' at a shopping centre. It was on a double yellow line, in a taxi rank, with a no entry signage at the entrance. 

Although the letter doesn't specifically state any of these things. It just says there was a breach of terms. Is there any way I can appeal this, what could I possibly say?

Thankfully the fine is only £30 but I'd rather not pay it if possible. 



I was parked on the left up ahead. 

triwizard said:

So I've looked at the newbies thread and the first appeal template...

Do you know what?

I'd pay the £30.

That is one of the most polite and reasonably worded PCNs I've ever seen from a private firm/shopping centre. There is no point digging our heels in and fighting PPCs for the sake of it, when a charge & conduct is reasonable.  Isn't this exactly what we're asking the Government for?

This is an exemplar. I'm assuming there are EFIPS signs up now (unlike on streetview).  

Well done, Westfield. They also put their name to it (but make it clear that the creditor is EFIPS) so they've really taken accountability as a landowner & given this some thought and haven't used one of the usual litigiously aggressive thug ANPR firms or IPC ex-clamper oiks.

It's also a perfectly reasonable £60 with 50% discount even though you parked on a DYL in a taxi rank.

I think this is a great example. I'd pay it.

This is the future of parking management on private land (proportionality) and we should not be shouting about a PCN like this.