Since UC migration £400 down a month and no idea why!

Yamor

Before Transitional Protection, I calculate as follows (using last year's rates):

ESA:
Couple: £142.25
Support: £47.70
EDP: £29.75
Carer: £45.60
SDP: £81.50
Total: £346.80
Less CA: -£81.90
Weekly entitlement: £264.90 (or £529.80 every two weeks)
Monthly equivalent: £1,147.90

UC:
Couple: £617.60
LCWRA: £416.19
Carer: £198.31
Total: £1,232.10
Less CA: -£354.90
Monthly entitlement: £877.20

If you were sent a migration notice, you should have been entitled to a Transitional Element of £270.70 to make up the difference.

If you naturally migrated, you should have been entitled to a TSDPE of £269.01 to make up the difference.

So, some questions:
1. Do you know if you were you awarded any Transitional Element at all?
2. Do the above figures for entitlement before Transitional Protection match what you were getting on ESA and are getting now on UC?
3. On your first payment statement from UC, is there a line on it for "Transitional protection" (just before the line "Total entitlement before deductions")? If yes, what figure is given on that line?

born_again

Yamor said:

Before Transitional Protection, I calculate as follows (using last year's rates):

ESA:
Couple: £142.25
Support: £47.70
EDP: £29.75
Carer: £45.60
SDP: £81.50
Total: £346.80
Less CA: -£81.90
Weekly entitlement: £264.90 (or £529.80 every two weeks)
Monthly equivalent: £1,147.90

UC:
Couple: £617.60
LCWRA: £416.19
Carer: £198.31
Total: £1,232.10
Less CA: -£354.90
Monthly entitlement: £877.20

If you were sent a migration notice, you should have been entitled to a Transitional Element of £270.70 to make up the difference.

If you naturally migrated, you should have been entitled to a TSDPE of £269.01 to make up the difference.

So, some questions:
1. Do you know if you were you awarded any Transitional Element at all?
2. Do the above figures for entitlement before Transitional Protection match what you were getting on ESA and are getting now on UC?
3. On your first payment statement from UC, is there a line on it for "Transitional protection" (just before the line "Total entitlement before deductions")? If yes, what figure is given on that line?

Are you assuming 🤷‍♀️the same as me, that only one can get LCWRA? As OP said they both get LCWRA "We are both in the limited capability for work and work related activities group"

KxMx

Only one LCWRA element is payable in a couples claim. 

The maximum is:

1 x LCWRA
+
1 X CE

or

2x CE

Spoonie_Turtle

born_again said:

Yamor said:

Before Transitional Protection, I calculate as follows (using last year's rates):

ESA:
Couple: £142.25
Support: £47.70
EDP: £29.75
Carer: £45.60
SDP: £81.50
Total: £346.80
Less CA: -£81.90
Weekly entitlement: £264.90 (or £529.80 every two weeks)
Monthly equivalent: £1,147.90

UC:
Couple: £617.60
LCWRA: £416.19
Carer: £198.31
Total: £1,232.10
Less CA: -£354.90
Monthly entitlement: £877.20

If you were sent a migration notice, you should have been entitled to a Transitional Element of £270.70 to make up the difference.

If you naturally migrated, you should have been entitled to a TSDPE of £269.01 to make up the difference.

So, some questions:
1. Do you know if you were you awarded any Transitional Element at all?
2. Do the above figures for entitlement before Transitional Protection match what you were getting on ESA and are getting now on UC?
3. On your first payment statement from UC, is there a line on it for "Transitional protection" (just before the line "Total entitlement before deductions")? If yes, what figure is given on that line?

Are you assuming 🤷‍♀️the same as me, that only one can get LCWRA? As OP said they both get LCWRA "We are both in the limited capability for work and work related activities group"

That's correct.  Maximum is LCWRA + carer element, for some reason a joint claim can't have 2x LCWRA.

born_again

Spoonie_Turtle said:

born_again said:

Yamor said:

Before Transitional Protection, I calculate as follows (using last year's rates):

ESA:
Couple: £142.25
Support: £47.70
EDP: £29.75
Carer: £45.60
SDP: £81.50
Total: £346.80
Less CA: -£81.90
Weekly entitlement: £264.90 (or £529.80 every two weeks)
Monthly equivalent: £1,147.90

UC:
Couple: £617.60
LCWRA: £416.19
Carer: £198.31
Total: £1,232.10
Less CA: -£354.90
Monthly entitlement: £877.20

If you were sent a migration notice, you should have been entitled to a Transitional Element of £270.70 to make up the difference.

If you naturally migrated, you should have been entitled to a TSDPE of £269.01 to make up the difference.

So, some questions:
1. Do you know if you were you awarded any Transitional Element at all?
2. Do the above figures for entitlement before Transitional Protection match what you were getting on ESA and are getting now on UC?
3. On your first payment statement from UC, is there a line on it for "Transitional protection" (just before the line "Total entitlement before deductions")? If yes, what figure is given on that line?

Are you assuming 🤷‍♀️the same as me, that only one can get LCWRA? As OP said they both get LCWRA "We are both in the limited capability for work and work related activities group"

That's correct.  Maximum is LCWRA + carer element, for some reason a joint claim can't have 2x LCWRA.

So as per your previous question 
"Is this the kind of thing transitional protection is supposed to be for"

Is it not the case then?

Spoonie_Turtle

born_again said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

born_again said:

Yamor said:

Before Transitional Protection, I calculate as follows (using last year's rates):

ESA:
Couple: £142.25
Support: £47.70
EDP: £29.75
Carer: £45.60
SDP: £81.50
Total: £346.80
Less CA: -£81.90
Weekly entitlement: £264.90 (or £529.80 every two weeks)
Monthly equivalent: £1,147.90

UC:
Couple: £617.60
LCWRA: £416.19
Carer: £198.31
Total: £1,232.10
Less CA: -£354.90
Monthly entitlement: £877.20

If you were sent a migration notice, you should have been entitled to a Transitional Element of £270.70 to make up the difference.

If you naturally migrated, you should have been entitled to a TSDPE of £269.01 to make up the difference.

So, some questions:
1. Do you know if you were you awarded any Transitional Element at all?
2. Do the above figures for entitlement before Transitional Protection match what you were getting on ESA and are getting now on UC?
3. On your first payment statement from UC, is there a line on it for "Transitional protection" (just before the line "Total entitlement before deductions")? If yes, what figure is given on that line?

Are you assuming 🤷‍♀️the same as me, that only one can get LCWRA? As OP said they both get LCWRA "We are both in the limited capability for work and work related activities group"

That's correct.  Maximum is LCWRA + carer element, for some reason a joint claim can't have 2x LCWRA.

So as per your previous question 
"Is this the kind of thing transitional protection is supposed to be for"

Is it not the case then?

I don't know, it was an open question to any members that do know

Yamor

On ESA you also couldn't get 2*support group

born_again

Spoonie_Turtle said:

born_again said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

born_again said:

Yamor said:

Before Transitional Protection, I calculate as follows (using last year's rates):

ESA:
Couple: £142.25
Support: £47.70
EDP: £29.75
Carer: £45.60
SDP: £81.50
Total: £346.80
Less CA: -£81.90
Weekly entitlement: £264.90 (or £529.80 every two weeks)
Monthly equivalent: £1,147.90

UC:
Couple: £617.60
LCWRA: £416.19
Carer: £198.31
Total: £1,232.10
Less CA: -£354.90
Monthly entitlement: £877.20

If you were sent a migration notice, you should have been entitled to a Transitional Element of £270.70 to make up the difference.

If you naturally migrated, you should have been entitled to a TSDPE of £269.01 to make up the difference.

So, some questions:
1. Do you know if you were you awarded any Transitional Element at all?
2. Do the above figures for entitlement before Transitional Protection match what you were getting on ESA and are getting now on UC?
3. On your first payment statement from UC, is there a line on it for "Transitional protection" (just before the line "Total entitlement before deductions")? If yes, what figure is given on that line?

Are you assuming 🤷‍♀️the same as me, that only one can get LCWRA? As OP said they both get LCWRA "We are both in the limited capability for work and work related activities group"

That's correct.  Maximum is LCWRA + carer element, for some reason a joint claim can't have 2x LCWRA.

So as per your previous question 
"Is this the kind of thing transitional protection is supposed to be for"

Is it not the case then?

I don't know, it was an open question to any members that do know

👍Guess we will have to wait for Op to post what UC statement shows.