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Fixed mortgage ending soon

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Hi guys just after some help please.

My current 5 year fixed mortgage deal is coming to an end and would like to fix again for 5 years as I like the peace of mind it brings.

House value is currently £325,000
Currently owe £140,000
Term I want is 23 years.

I have found the following deals

4.19% fixed with no fee
3.99% fixed with fee of £999

So I would save 0.20% Interest if I pay the fee.

I'm trying to get my head round if I should pay the fee as I look at the figure's.

I have done some workings out based on the full 23years length of the mortgage and it showed the interest I would pay as follows..

4.19% mortgage £78,356 
3.99% mortgage £74,146
(Also save £15.26 per month on repayments with the 3.99% deal)

So this clearly shows a fee of £999 would be beneficial but the bit that's confusing me is i would like to work this out over 5 years as after 5 years i will be looking for another deal anyway could someone please advise me how I could do this please 🙏 

Thank you in advance ☺️ 

Comments

  • lfc321
    lfc321 Posts: 710 Forumite
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    Are you going to pay the fee upfront, or add it to the mortgage?
  • amnblog
    amnblog Posts: 12,727 Forumite
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    edited 7 April at 12:16PM
    0.20% difference in rate on £140,000 over 5 years is £280 x5 = £1,400

    Yes, as you pay the capital off you save a little less, the lower the remaining mortgage term the less you save
    Yes, if you add the fee you pay £200 interest on it
    Yes, if you pay the fee, you lose savings interest on £999

    But you will be ahead by taking the fee rate - not by much

    I am a Mortgage Broker

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • sheenas
    sheenas Posts: 141 Forumite
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    So, if it added to the mortgage it's effectively £141,000 @ 3.99%, if you pay it up front then its ((60 x monthly payment) + £999) /60. Mostly like they will be more or less the same.
  • Hoenir
    Hoenir Posts: 7,736 Forumite
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    I have done some workings out based on the full 23years length of the mortgage and it showed the interest I would pay as follows..

    4.19% mortgage £78,356 
    3.99% mortgage £74,146
    (Also save £15.26 per month on repayments with the 3.99% deal)


    This should have no bearing on your thinking. In 5 years time you'll need to select a new mortgage product. 
  • markharriers
    markharriers Posts: 231 Forumite
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    edited 7 April at 1:28PM
    amnblog said:
    0.20% difference in rate on £140,000 over 5 years is £280 x5 = £1,400

    Yes, as you pay the capital off you save a little less, the lower the remaining mortgage term the less you save
    Yes, if you add the fee you pay £200 interest on it
    Yes, if you pay the fee, you lose savings interest on £999

    But you will be ahead by taking the fee rate - not by much

    Thank you.

    So looking at how you have put it i would save £400 if I pay the fee separately to the mortgage but putting it on the mortgage would cost me £200 so would save £200 think I have that right lol also I would save an extra £15 per month on the repayment amount on the 3.99% as opposed to the 4.19% one saving me an extra £900? 

    Am I correct in thinking as I will doing a 5 year fix im best just working my figures out over 5 years and not the full length of the mortgage?
  • amnblog
    amnblog Posts: 12,727 Forumite
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    The difference in the monthly payments cannot be added in again. That is reflected in the difference in interest rates
    I am a Mortgage Broker

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • georgehere
    georgehere Posts: 115 Forumite
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    "Am I correct in thinking as I will doing a 5 year fix im best just working my figures out over 5 years and not the full length of the mortgage?"

    Yes you are correct. The 2 deals are equal over the 5 year period.
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