PIP Changes

AlanSmid

I need to know if i will lose my pip when iv just won on the 17th in the pip tribunal, Will i be effected?

I scored 4 in "Preparing food" and 4 "Engaging with other people face to face"

I'm so confused... 

Spoonie_Turtle

AlanSmid said:

I need to know if i will lose my pip when iv just won on the 17th in the pip tribunal, Will i be effected?

I scored 4 in "Preparing food" and 4 "Engaging with other people face to face"

I'm so confused... 

The change they want to bring in is for people to have to score at least 4 points in any daily living activity, as well as scoring 8 points as is the case now.

You scored 4 points on those two daily living activities, so you will be fine if/when they bring in the change.

AlanSmid

Spoonie_Turtle said:

AlanSmid said:

I need to know if i will lose my pip when iv just won on the 17th in the pip tribunal, Will i be effected?

I scored 4 in "Preparing food" and 4 "Engaging with other people face to face"

I'm so confused... 

The change they want to bring in is for people to have to score at least 4 points in any daily living activity, as well as scoring 8 points as is the case now.

You scored 4 points on those two daily living activities, so you will be fine if/when they bring in the change.

1. Preparing food e. Needs supervision or assistance to either prepare or cook a simple meal. 4 points

 2. Taking nutrition b. Needs either - (i) to use an aid or appliance to take nutrition; or (ii) supervision to be able to take nutrition; or (iii) assistance to be able to cut up food. 2 points

3. Managing therapy or monitoring a health condition Final Decision Notice b. Needs any one or more of the following - (i) to use an aid or appliance to be able to manage medication; (ii) supervision, prompting or assistance to be able to manage medication; (iii) supervision, prompting or assistance to be able to monitor. 1 point 

4. Washing and bathing 2 points

 8. Reading and understanding signs, symbols and words b. Needs to use an aid or appliance, other than spectacles or contact lenses, to be able to read or understand either basic or complex written information. 2 points

 9. Engaging with other people face to face c. Needs social support to be able to engage with other people. 4 points

 11. Planning and following journeys d. Cannot follow the route of an unfamiliar journey without another person, assistance dog or orientation aid. 10 points

I'm sorry but i was worried 

Spoonie_Turtle

Activities 1-9 that you've listed above are daily living activities.  (Number 11 is mobility.)

You've scored 4 for at least one of the daily living activities - actually two, in your case, Cooking, and Engaging with other people - so you meet the new/future rule already.

So there is no need for you to worry with the PIP scores you have 

born_again

AlanSmid said:

I need to know if i will lose my pip when iv just won on the 17th in the pip tribunal, Will i be effected?

I scored 4 in "Preparing food" and 4 "Engaging with other people face to face"

I'm so confused... 

The changes are not going to be in place for a long time.
So please stop worrying about the changes. You will get the PIP from this outcome.

What happens in the future, is yet to be fully decided.

AlanSmid

born_again said:

AlanSmid said:

I need to know if i will lose my pip when iv just won on the 17th in the pip tribunal, Will i be effected?

I scored 4 in "Preparing food" and 4 "Engaging with other people face to face"

I'm so confused... 

The changes are not going to be in place for a long time.
So please stop worrying about the changes. You will get the PIP from this outcome.

What happens in the future, is yet to be fully decided.

What you mean by "The changes are not going to be in place for a long time" may i ask?

Muttleythefrog

AlanSmid said:

born_again said:

AlanSmid said:

I need to know if i will lose my pip when iv just won on the 17th in the pip tribunal, Will i be effected?

I scored 4 in "Preparing food" and 4 "Engaging with other people face to face"

I'm so confused... 

The changes are not going to be in place for a long time.
So please stop worrying about the changes. You will get the PIP from this outcome.

What happens in the future, is yet to be fully decided.

What you mean by "The changes are not going to be in place for a long time" may i ask?

The government plan to add the new 'you must get at least one 4 point or more scoring Daily Living descriptor to get a DL award' late in 2026. The change would only affect new claims and claim reviews after that. Your current award if replicated (i.e. you meet the new criteria as you currently would) at a future review would be unaffected by the new rule.

AlanSmid

Muttleythefrog said:

AlanSmid said:

born_again said:

AlanSmid said:

I need to know if i will lose my pip when iv just won on the 17th in the pip tribunal, Will i be effected?

I scored 4 in "Preparing food" and 4 "Engaging with other people face to face"

I'm so confused... 

The changes are not going to be in place for a long time.
So please stop worrying about the changes. You will get the PIP from this outcome.

What happens in the future, is yet to be fully decided.

What you mean by "The changes are not going to be in place for a long time" may i ask?

The government plan to add the new 'you must get at least one 4 point or more scoring Daily Living descriptor to get a DL award' late in 2026. The change would only affect new claims and claim reviews after that. Your current award if replicated (i.e. you meet the new criteria as you currently would) at a future review would be unaffected by the new rule.

I won in the pip tribunal on the 17th this month and it says i have pip till 2030 via letter they sent me.

peteuk

As noted above he changes haven't even been put into place and then there is a question of who and when.  Common sense says they will review it at your next review, but truthfully no one knows yet.  Id also add, Youve a 5 yr review, which indicates things are unlikely to change with your condition in the next few years.  However your claim is only as safe as the assessor, given youve gone through the tribunal, it doesnt mean the same wont happen in 2030. 

AlanSmid

peteuk said:

As noted above he changes haven't even been put into place and then there is a question of who and when.  Common sense says they will review it at your next review, but truthfully no one knows yet.  Id also add, Youve a 5 yr review, which indicates things are unlikely to change with your condition in the next few years.  However your claim is only as safe as the assessor, given youve gone through the tribunal, it doesnt mean the same wont happen in 2030. 

I wanted to ask aswell, When will i get the pip backpay?, iv waited like 15 months

born_again

AlanSmid said:

born_again said:

AlanSmid said:

I need to know if i will lose my pip when iv just won on the 17th in the pip tribunal, Will i be effected?

I scored 4 in "Preparing food" and 4 "Engaging with other people face to face"

I'm so confused... 

The changes are not going to be in place for a long time.
So please stop worrying about the changes. You will get the PIP from this outcome.

What happens in the future, is yet to be fully decided.

What you mean by "The changes are not going to be in place for a long time" may i ask?

Late 2026 & will only effect claims from then.. So your claim to 2030 you have 4/5 before anything will effect you 👍