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julie8_2
julie8_2 Posts: 1 Newbie
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Our micro not for profit have been getting estimated bills from EON for more than 2 years. They cant be bothered to read the meter. They are now taking us to Court for over £6,000 based on the estimated bills. The bills have not been right since Feb 2023. Where do we stand on the 'back-billing' rules?

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  • QrizB
    QrizB Posts: 18,010 Forumite
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    Much more detail required, please.
    Why have you not supplied meter readings for two years? Your bills will have clearly shown the estimates.
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  • FrugaiMacDugal
    FrugaiMacDugal Posts: 207 Forumite
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    edited 21 March at 5:23AM

    Micro User - Lazy Energy Company


    You say,

    Lazy Energy Company

    but, were you happy to accept the estimated bills, which now seem to have been underestimated, but not happy now with catch up bill?
    Laziness by yourself, methinks.



  • Robin9
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    Does your "Lazy Energy" Company have an online facility for you to give readings.

    It is quite rare for any supplier to read meters these days -  my business ones haven't been read since Covid but they are AMR meters so no estimates and I check the bills every month.

    Have you now read your meters ?
    Never pay on an estimated bill. Always read and understand your bill
  • Just send them a meter read then?
    How bizarre. 
  • Neil_Jones
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    julie8_2 said:
    Our micro not for profit have been getting estimated bills from EON for more than 2 years. They cant be bothered to read the meter. They are now taking us to Court for over £6,000 based on the estimated bills. The bills have not been right since Feb 2023. Where do we stand on the 'back-billing' rules?

    Back Billing rules only apply when the problem that's generated the back billing is caused by the supplier.
    I assume that you are saying they (Eon) "can't be bothered to read the meter"?  Yeah that doesn't really happen any more, and hasn't been a thing since 2016 apparently.

    So if you haven't submitted any meter readings over two years... well that's not the supplier's fault, that's yours.  So back billing probably won't apply here.

    I suggest you deal with Eon to see if they will come to some compromise with you. 
  • Robin9
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    If you are having difficulty in reading the meter -  some of old ones with dials going in different directions can be very difficult; some of the new ones with a decimal point aren't much easier - send us a photo and we'll read it for you.

    Accurate meter readings are at the heart of this disputed account.
    Never pay on an estimated bill. Always read and understand your bill
  • daveyjp
    daveyjp Posts: 13,508 Forumite
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    "Micro not profit"?  Is the missing word business/organisation?

    If you are a business back billing won't apply.  If you aren't reading meters and getting accurate bills are you confident in the abilities of the directors/senior managers as someone isn't doing their job.
  • MeteredOut
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    edited 24 March at 10:04AM
    daveyjp said:
    "Micro not profit"?  Is the missing word business/organisation?

    If you are a business back billing won't apply.  If you aren't reading meters and getting accurate bills are you confident in the abilities of the directors/senior managers as someone isn't doing their job.
    Assuming the OP means they are a micro-business, back billing rules could apply

    https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/information-consumers/energy-advice-households/what-do-if-you-get-back-bill

    "The rules apply to domestic energy consumers and microbusinesses."

    But, in this case, since the OP was getting estimated bills, I suspect they won't be successful in their claim.

    It's not clear if the OP has submitted an actual reading, and that has resulted in the £6K bill, or whether, as they state, the £6K bill is based on estimated readings. If the latter, the obvious step is to submit an actual reading and find out what is actually owed.
  • QrizB
    QrizB Posts: 18,010 Forumite
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    It really would help if @julie8_2 would provide some more information. Until then, we're just guessing.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
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