What details do I need to disclose?

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user1977 said:

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sheramber said:

The call handler will want to conform or is not a malicious call.  I don’t know if they still do but they used to phone you back to confirm you had made the call. 

An anonymous call may  be put to the bottom of the pile so  not dealt with any quicker than by reporting to crime stoppers. 

But they would have my phone number, often the landline.

But you also say "I don't trust the police as the people I'm reporting may have family or friends working at the same place" - why don't you think they'd trace you via your phone number if they really wanted to?

In any event, how would you enforce any complaint about this without revealing who you are?

Phone numbers and landlines are often ex-directory and it will take some doing for someone to look it up and a reason.
If I were to give my phone number, they can call me back ie on my landline. So I don't really see it as a problem if they did not get my name and address.

You may feel confident reporting antisocial people up your road and giving your details to the police but I don't and on the whole don't trust the police.  And yes, the police, some will tell tales to mates etc and worse and yes, that applies to most professions. This is why I would not trust them but I am aware most are decent cops but you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out stuff like what I fear does go on.

Your last sentence, I'm not sure if you've thought about what you have just posted as of course you can get the police to act without providing my own details via a non police route, namely CS - so why does the police need my details when I call them direct?

Aylesbury_Duck

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user1977 said:

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sheramber said:

The call handler will want to conform or is not a malicious call.  I don’t know if they still do but they used to phone you back to confirm you had made the call. 

An anonymous call may  be put to the bottom of the pile so  not dealt with any quicker than by reporting to crime stoppers. 

But they would have my phone number, often the landline.

But you also say "I don't trust the police as the people I'm reporting may have family or friends working at the same place" - why don't you think they'd trace you via your phone number if they really wanted to?

In any event, how would you enforce any complaint about this without revealing who you are?

Phone numbers and landlines are often ex-directory and it will take some doing for someone to look it up and a reason.
If I were to give my phone number, they can call me back ie on my landline. So I don't really see it as a problem if they did not get my name and address.

You may feel confident reporting antisocial people up your road and giving your details to the police but I don't and on the whole don't trust the police.  And yes, the police, some will tell tales to mates etc and worse and yes, that applies to most professions. This is why I would not trust them but I am aware most are decent cops but you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out stuff like what I fear does go on.

Your last sentence, I'm not sure if you've thought about what you have just posted as of course you can get the police to act without providing my own details via a non police route, namely CS - so why does the police need my details when I call them direct?

They don't need them, but they have to prioritise things, and I suspect they're more likely to act on a report for which they have a credible witness than they are for an anonymous one that could be scurrilous or malicious or without foundation.

Your choice.  How badly do you want something to be done?

user1977

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user1977 said:

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sheramber said:

The call handler will want to conform or is not a malicious call.  I don’t know if they still do but they used to phone you back to confirm you had made the call. 

An anonymous call may  be put to the bottom of the pile so  not dealt with any quicker than by reporting to crime stoppers. 

But they would have my phone number, often the landline.

But you also say "I don't trust the police as the people I'm reporting may have family or friends working at the same place" - why don't you think they'd trace you via your phone number if they really wanted to?

In any event, how would you enforce any complaint about this without revealing who you are?

Your last sentence, I'm not sure if you've thought about what you have just posted as of course you can get the police to act without providing my own details via a non police route, namely CS - so why does the police need my details when I call them direct?

Assuming it is the case that the police are obliged to take action based on an anonymous complaint, what steps would you take (without in so doing revealing your identity) if you were aggrieved that they hadn't?

Also bear in mind that you can't demand the police do anything in particular (or be told what they've done) even in response to a non-anonymous complaint about antisocial behaviour.

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user1977 said:

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user1977 said:

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sheramber said:

The call handler will want to conform or is not a malicious call.  I don’t know if they still do but they used to phone you back to confirm you had made the call. 

An anonymous call may  be put to the bottom of the pile so  not dealt with any quicker than by reporting to crime stoppers. 

But they would have my phone number, often the landline.

But you also say "I don't trust the police as the people I'm reporting may have family or friends working at the same place" - why don't you think they'd trace you via your phone number if they really wanted to?

In any event, how would you enforce any complaint about this without revealing who you are?

Your last sentence, I'm not sure if you've thought about what you have just posted as of course you can get the police to act without providing my own details via a non police route, namely CS - so why does the police need my details when I call them direct?

Assuming it is the case that the police are obliged to take action based on an anonymous complaint, what steps would you take (without in so doing revealing your identity) if you were aggrieved that they hadn't?

Also bear in mind that you can't demand the police do anything in particular (or be told what they've done) even in response to a non-anonymous complaint about antisocial behaviour.

I've made it clear it is an anti-social going on nothing serious. I believe everyone is aware that no one can "demand" anything/investigate etc.  My questions were as mentioned in my previous posts.

Therefore, is any aware if a member of the public is within their right to register their concerns about what some may treat as "not serious crimes," making a report without disclosing their name and address but happy to share their phone number including their landline?  To make it even more clear, is their anything written in the police guidelines that's makes it mandatory for the 101 service to demand your details, otherwise they won't register the concern.

user1977

Yes, you can send anonymous pieces of intelligence to the police if you wish. There is no "right" to do so though.

Aylesbury_Duck

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user1977 said:

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user1977 said:

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sheramber said:

The call handler will want to conform or is not a malicious call.  I don’t know if they still do but they used to phone you back to confirm you had made the call. 

An anonymous call may  be put to the bottom of the pile so  not dealt with any quicker than by reporting to crime stoppers. 

But they would have my phone number, often the landline.

But you also say "I don't trust the police as the people I'm reporting may have family or friends working at the same place" - why don't you think they'd trace you via your phone number if they really wanted to?

In any event, how would you enforce any complaint about this without revealing who you are?

Your last sentence, I'm not sure if you've thought about what you have just posted as of course you can get the police to act without providing my own details via a non police route, namely CS - so why does the police need my details when I call them direct?

Assuming it is the case that the police are obliged to take action based on an anonymous complaint, what steps would you take (without in so doing revealing your identity) if you were aggrieved that they hadn't?

Also bear in mind that you can't demand the police do anything in particular (or be told what they've done) even in response to a non-anonymous complaint about antisocial behaviour.

I've made it clear it is an anti-social going on nothing serious. I believe everyone is aware that no one can "demand" anything/investigate etc.  My questions were as mentioned in my previous posts.

Therefore, is any aware if a member of the public is within their right to register their concerns about what some may treat as "not serious crimes," making a report without disclosing their name and address but happy to share their phone number including their landline?  To make it even more clear, is their anything written in the police guidelines that's makes it mandatory for the 101 service to demand your details, otherwise they won't register the concern.

The 'script' for the call handlers will be to ask for your details, yes.  Can they demand them and force you to supply them?  No.  They can ask for your details, you could provide entirely false details or no details at all.  They have to register the call, they can't just wipe the record but as others have said already, if you want them to actually do something it's in your interest to supply as much information as you can.

sheramber

Why not ask the call handler what authority they have to get your name and address?   They are the ones that will know the  answer.

If you don’t trust the police  why do you  trust them  to act on your information, particularly  when you say it is nothing serious?

user1977

And if you don't feel comfortable discussing it over the phone, send the info by another method.

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sheramber said:

Why not ask the call handler what authority they have to get your name and address?   They are the ones that will know the  answer.

Sounds simple   "Why not ask the call handler what authority they have to get your name and address?   They are the ones that will know the answer," but as often stated, the simple answers/solutions are the BEST.  It seems so obvious now you have posted it but this is why I asked and I've got the help I needed. so cheers again.

I'm happy to call from my landline and not withhold the number in the hope they take my call as seriously as they can.