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Advise on landlord claims please

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UPDATE ON BELOW


Just had a call from the agent.

Landlord is claiming entire deposit of £1,500 for -

Re-carpet entire house on a minimum 4 year old carpet and all we did was 1 stain in the living room

Painting entire house - not painted in a minimum 4 years and we touched up the walls

2 holes in brickwork for 2 screws that held in EV charger.

I do have photos too from when we left.


Advise please and what would be suitable settlement. It is with DPS


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Landlord claiming for damages that aren't true


Hi All,

Family of 4 here (disabled 8 year old and 16 year old with myself and my wife) that have just moved out from an AST in england.

We moved in 2 years ago and then the landlord (great guy) sold up around 8 months ago. Well the new landlord refused to fix things like thermostat in the shower despite it being only way to wash.

So we felt we had to move.

Now this landlord has been very tough to deal with. The old landlord said even during the sale this guy was rude and hard to deal with. I wont repeat the exact phrase.

So on leaving 14 days ago I took photos.

The old landlord purchased the house 4 years ago. Didnt repaint or put down new carpet.
Each wall was a slightly different shade due to aging of the walls (we wanted to touch it up but no paint matched).

So in the living room we have left a stain (edit, stain is on carpet not wall) that we are happy to cover. However he is claiming for paint on the walls etc that is just down to not being decorated for a minimum of 4 years .

Any advise on dealing with this guy? It is with DPS

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  • Voyager2002
    Voyager2002 Posts: 16,249 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Keep it formal and polite: simply say that you do not agree and so the DPS will come into play.

    By the sound of things you are absolutely in the right so will eventually get back your deposit.
  • Jesselinoa
    Jesselinoa Posts: 11 Forumite
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    Keep it formal and polite: simply say that you do not agree and so the DPS will come into play.

    By the sound of things you are absolutely in the right so will eventually get back your deposit.
    Hi, that was why I put up links to photos. I am happy to pay for the stain in living room however I cannot see how he can claim what he is claiming for. 
  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,693 Forumite
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    Just dispute everything.  
  • Tabieth
    Tabieth Posts: 277 Forumite
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    Dispute it with the DPS and then just wait. The LL is clearly being unreasonable so I wouldn’t worry too much. 
  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 35,549 Forumite
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    The LL needs evidence of deterioration beyond normal usage. Do they have a dual signed in-coming inventory, preferably with accompanying photos or video?

    They are not entitled to betterment. For an item with a 10 year life span that is damaged in year 8, the maximum would be 20% cost of similar replacement. If they want to replace a standard carpet with a better quality one, they bear the additional cost not the departing tenant.

    One poster here paid £80 after adjudication, for an iron burn she admitted causing to a carpet, not the full cost of replacement the LL demanded.

    Check the details of your deposit scheme and whether it is custodial or insurance based.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • Jesselinoa
    Jesselinoa Posts: 11 Forumite
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    RAS said:
    The LL needs evidence of deterioration beyond normal usage. Do they have a dual signed in-coming inventory, preferably with accompanying photos or video?

    They are not entitled to betterment. For an item with a 10 year life span that is damaged in year 8, the maximum would be 20% cost of similar replacement. If they want to replace a standard carpet with a better quality one, they bear the additional cost not the departing tenant.

    One poster here paid £80 after adjudication, for an iron burn she admitted causing to a carpet, not the full cost of replacement the LL demanded.

    Check the details of your deposit scheme and whether it is custodial or insurance based.
    Hi, it is custodial. What is the difference?
  • Mr.Generous
    Mr.Generous Posts: 3,967 Forumite
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    RAS said:
    The LL needs evidence of deterioration beyond normal usage. Do they have a dual signed in-coming inventory, preferably with accompanying photos or video?

    They are not entitled to betterment. For an item with a 10 year life span that is damaged in year 8, the maximum would be 20% cost of similar replacement. If they want to replace a standard carpet with a better quality one, they bear the additional cost not the departing tenant.

    One poster here paid £80 after adjudication, for an iron burn she admitted causing to a carpet, not the full cost of replacement the LL demanded.

    Check the details of your deposit scheme and whether it is custodial or insurance based.
    Hi, it is custodial. What is the difference?

    Custodial the scheme hold the cash, they won't release it to LL unless you agree, or they arbitrate and find in his favour. I wonder if he has good evidence of condition at check in - like the walls for example? Without evidence he's lost. With it you would still expect some wear and tear after 4 years, and you say it wasn't freshly decorated when you started tenancy so as others have said dispute everything. I'm guessing rent was quite high from the size of the deposit.
    Mr Generous - Landlord for more than 10 years. Generous? - Possibly but sarcastic more likely.
  • Jesselinoa
    Jesselinoa Posts: 11 Forumite
    First Post
    Hi,

    I have the move in survey that shows marks on walls and carpets etc.

    In short we lived there 2 years, the initial landlord lived there for 2 years prior. No one ever painted or changed carpets. So it is all minimum 4 years old.
  • Mr.Generous
    Mr.Generous Posts: 3,967 Forumite
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    Use your photos as evidence in your favour, this landlord sounds like a fool, and too gready for own good. After 4 years I'd expect to decorate a place, that's normal.
    Mr Generous - Landlord for more than 10 years. Generous? - Possibly but sarcastic more likely.
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