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PCN in England, registered keeper's address in Northern Ireland

jim._2
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edited 5 March 2025 at 9:01PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
My family seem to be breeding these PCNs at the minute.

PCN recently through my door for a breach at a shopping centre in England. Car is registered in Northern Ireland. 

Before going into all the details of the alleged breach, does the fact the car is registered to an address in Northern Ireland provide the "Ignore if NI" protection or is it different as the carpark is in England?
Jim.

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  • LDast
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    It is only relevant to the address of the Keeper. As it is in NI, ignore them.
  • Coupon-mad
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    PCN in England, registered keeper's address in Northern Ireland

    Completely ignore it. Nothing will hapoen.
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  • jim._2
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    Thanks for the responses.

    If the car was registered to a NI address, but the RK actually lived in England would the same still apply. The RK would still get all mail.
    Jim.
  • LDast
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    RK address is in NI. That is what counts. Ignore everything. Don't overthink.
  • Umkomaas
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    jim._2 said:
    Thanks for the responses.

    If the car was registered to a NI address, but the RK actually lived in England would the same still apply. The RK would still get all mail.
    If the PCN was delivered to a Northern Ireland address, how would the parking firm know you lived in England?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • jim._2
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    Umkomaas said:
    jim._2 said:
    Thanks for the responses.

    If the car was registered to a NI address, but the RK actually lived in England would the same still apply. The RK would still get all mail.
    If the PCN was delivered to a Northern Ireland address, how would the parking firm know you lived in England?

    They’ll obviously wouldn’t, but I guess the car will now stay registered in Belfast for a while longer.

    My concern was the jurisdiction of the no RK liability and did that apply to the RK’s address or the location of the alleged offence. Similarly if an England based RK is “caught” in NI do they not have the no RK liability protection?

    In my case, would any court action take place in England or NI. I know that almost certainly won’t happen as they need to know the driver, but interesting given the no RK liability is from NI “law” and not English “law”.


    Jim.
  • ChirpyChicken
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    another one overthinking stuff
    Car is registered in NI,
    End of the matter.
  • jim._2
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    Umkomaas said:
    jim._2 said:
    Thanks for the responses.

    If the car was registered to a NI address, but the RK actually lived in England would the same still apply. The RK would still get all mail.
    If the PCN was delivered to a Northern Ireland address, how would the parking firm know you lived in England?
    Good question.

    The RK received a letter to their address in England, so how did they get that address?
    Jim.
  • Gr1pr
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    edited 13 April 2025 at 11:34AM
    Tracing addresses is a fairly common practice,  doesn't cost much, less than 50p, perhaps they got lucky, or somebody told them  ?

    Ignore them unless you receive a Letter of Claim or a Court claim

    Meanwhile,  if its registered In N.I. , you definitely dont want to be contacting them as the driver 
  • Coupon-mad
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    jim._2 said:
    Umkomaas said:
    jim._2 said:
    Thanks for the responses.

    If the car was registered to a NI address, but the RK actually lived in England would the same still apply. The RK would still get all mail.
    If the PCN was delivered to a Northern Ireland address, how would the parking firm know you lived in England?
    Good question.

    The RK received a letter to their address in England, so how did they get that address?
    Oh dear. A debt crawler traced you to England? Then that DOES make a difference and it doesn't help that the car is registered in Belfast.

    If it were me, I'd transfer liability to the driver giving the NI address. 
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