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What am I’m missing - Why would you pay a product fee of £999 for a lower mortgage rate on a 5 year fixed rate if the total additional amount in monthly payments you would pay on the higher interest rate  where no product fee is payable is £924. I’m paying £999 product fee so that I can save £924. Is there anything else I’m missing as to why I would pay the product fee and get the lower rate. The difference in rates is 0.24% on a mortgage balance ok 120k.

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  • Edi81
    Edi81 Posts: 1,501 Forumite
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    You wouldn’t. There is a point as the balance decreases that no fee is cheaper. 
  • Emmia
    Emmia Posts: 5,632 Forumite
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    edited 28 February at 8:29AM
    We always look at the overall cost in the fix period. If it costs less with the fee (which we pay, rather than adding it to the mortgage) we pay the fee. If it costs less for a no fee product, we do that.

    We also consider what length of fix to go for on a similar basis, but given interest rate history over the last few years, that one is more of a gamble.
  • housebuyer143
    housebuyer143 Posts: 4,257 Forumite
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    edited 28 February at 8:03AM
    If you have a larger loan then the fee is worth it, however, for the amount you have it is almost never worth it to have the fee and instead you should go for the higher rate. 
    I also look at the fee over the fixed period, rather than over the whole mortgage.
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,256 Forumite
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    The outstanding balance at the end of the five years will be lower.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • feynman33
    feynman33 Posts: 33 Forumite
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    edited 28 February at 12:23PM
    To assess the benefits of paying the fee you need to compare the difference in monthly payments over 5 years AND what your mortgage balance will be after 5 years, use the mortgage calculator page.

    Also, don't compare paying the fee upfront with borrowing the same amount with no fee as that's just misleading savings.

    The comparison should be 'add fee to mortgage' vs 'no fee' or 'pay fee upfront' vs 'no fee and borrow 999 less'.

    I think you should benefit nearly £200 on the lower rate with fee...


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  • ACG
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    The balances will be different (your starting with a balance that is a grand higher assuming you add the fee)
    The cost will be difference (in your case £924 v £999.
    Some people are used to interest rates of 1-2%, so would rather pay the fee to get a lower repayment. 

    Plenty of different factors and some will matter more than others depending on your preferences and the numbers involved. 

    I am doing an £800k mortgage at the minute where it makes sense to pay the fee to get a lower rate. I am also doing a £103k mortgage where it makes sense to go without the fees. 
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • Hoenir
    Hoenir Posts: 7,742 Forumite
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    What am I’m missing - Why would you pay a product fee of £999 for a lower mortgage rate on a 5 year fixed rate if the total additional amount in monthly payments you would pay on the higher interest rate
    Lenders want to attract new customers with larger mortgage balances. The adminstration cost of onboarding a client is the same. Fewer customers with larger balances is a more profitable business model.  
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