Euro Car Parks - Windscreen PCN (Scotland)

BoyWithTheBlues

Hello,

Thank you for providing such a helpful resource. I've successfully used this forum to get PCNs cancelled in the past and appreciate the time and effort everyone contributes.

I'm contemplating a slightly different situation this time.

I have heard of a windscreen parking ticket that was issued by Euro Car Parks in Scotland.

If I were advising someone in this situation, would the advice still be to wait 25 or 26 days before submitting an appeal? The rationale behind this is to engage the parking company in the appeals process, hoping they will either miss deadlines or fail to send a NTK, thus strengthening the case at POPLA. However, since this occurred in Scotland, POPLA doesn't apply. Therefore, is there still any benefit to waiting?

I apologise if this is a simple question, but I'm confused about the distinctions between windscreen tickets and those issued by ANPR systems, and the added absence of POPLA in Scotland.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Le_Kirk

When you used the forum before did you read the NEWBIE sticky (and did you refresh your memory of it this time) where it states that Scotland is different (just now)?  Might be worth another read.

Umkomaas

Apart from complaining to the landowner and your MP, leave well alone in Scotland (for this year anyway).  You can only appeal to POPLA in a Scotland case as the driver, thus blowing your keeper protection as provided by the non-application of PoFA north of the border.  

Gr1pr

Its POFA 2012 that currently doesn't apply in Scotland 

Popla applies in Scotland but only to an admitted driver,  not the keeper 

Ignore them, but plan A in the newbies sticky thread in announcements near the top of the forum could be tried,  but no blabbing about who was driving,  not to anyone 

BoyWithTheBlues

Le_Kirk said:

When you used the forum before did you read the NEWBIE sticky (and did you refresh your memory of it this time) where it states that Scotland is different (just now)?  Might be worth another read.

I did, thank you. But I probably should have done so with a fresher pair of eyes. Confused myself over POPLA / POFA terminology and their relevance in Scotland.

Umkomaas said:

Apart from complaining to the landowner and your MP, leave well alone in Scotland (for this year anyway).  You can only appeal to POPLA in a Scotland case as the driver, thus blowing your keeper protection as provided by the non-application of PoFA north of the border.  

Leave well alone as in, don't even bother with template appeal i.e. ignore?

Gr1pr said:

Its POFA 2012 that currently doesn't apply in Scotland 

Popla applies in Scotland but only to an admitted driver,  not the keeper 

Ignore them, but plan A in the newbies sticky thread in announcements near the top of the forum could be tried,  but no blabbing about who was driving,  not to anyone 

No point in a template appeal?

Thanks for the help. And in the meantime I will complain to landowner and MP.

Nellymoser

You should ask you MP to support this motion asking for an independent parking regulator, with appropriate powers to regulate fees, enforcement and appeals.
https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/63049/independent-parking-regulator

And please sign the petition linked in the post below, and encourage family, friends and work colleagues to sign. 🙏

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81195013/#Comment_81195013

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BoyWithTheBlues said:

Le_Kirk said:

When you used the forum before did you read the NEWBIE sticky (and did you refresh your memory of it this time) where it states that Scotland is different (just now)?  Might be worth another read.

I did, thank you. But I probably should have done so with a fresher pair of eyes. Confused myself over POPLA / POFA terminology and their relevance in Scotland.

Umkomaas said:

Apart from complaining to the landowner and your MP, leave well alone in Scotland (for this year anyway).  You can only appeal to POPLA in a Scotland case as the driver, thus blowing your keeper protection as provided by the non-application of PoFA north of the border.  

Leave well alone as in, don't even bother with template appeal i.e. ignore?

Gr1pr said:

Its POFA 2012 that currently doesn't apply in Scotland 

Popla applies in Scotland but only to an admitted driver,  not the keeper 

Ignore them, but plan A in the newbies sticky thread in announcements near the top of the forum could be tried,  but no blabbing about who was driving,  not to anyone 

No point in a template appeal?

No point whatsoever.  Do NOT appeal a Scottish case, all the time the parking industry ducks regulation.

But search the forum for:

Scotland parking new law 2025

(which will actually take until 2026 now) because all Scottish drivers need to be more careful in future, on private land, and know that keeper liability is coming to you.  Stupid decision.  Ludicrous. But things will change.