PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Cooparenting - council tax

Options
CryptoPrincess
CryptoPrincess Posts: 1 Newbie
edited 18 February at 3:40PM in House buying, renting & selling
Hello dear MSE Community, 
I was wondering if someone would be able to help me. Basically I am in a relationship but don't live permanently with my partner. He owns his place outside London and I rent mine in London. I wont get into why etc but mostly for work related reasons i need a base in London. Of course we 'share' both places, I stay at his amd he uses mine, however we are individually responsible for our own places financially and bills wise etc. When we have a child, we have agreed they will of course need one address and that would be his address in his place outside London as the place is larger and better suited etc. I will still be keeping my rental in London. So now, do I need to pay council tax for staying at his place? Will the fact there is a baby take away his council tax discount? Will this situation create child benefit issues? I can imagine what some people might be thinking, that it is some weird arrangement and all I cam say it's not. I simply need a place in London to be close to work and not travel 30h in public transport a week. I'm sure there are a lot of people woth 2 properties in relationships. Thank you for any help 🙂

Comments

  • lincroft1710
    lincroft1710 Posts: 18,916 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    1. You are not responsible for paying CT unless you are named on the CT bill. If you were living there permanently your partner would lose his 25% discount.

    2. Under 18s are disregarded for CT purposes.

     
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,705 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 18 February at 4:18PM
    1. You are not responsible for paying CT unless you are named on the CT bill. ..

     
    No.. You are responsible if you are responsible.  (If you name to council that the Archbishop of Canterbury is living there for CT in your home that doesn't mean he's got to pay, does it..)

    see
    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/council-tax/paying-council-tax/

    "" The hierarchy of liability is:
    1. A resident owner-occupier who owns either the leasehold or freehold of all or part of the property.

    2. A resident tenant.

    3. A resident who lives in the property and who is a licensee - this means that they’re not a tenant, but have permission to stay there.

    4. Any resident living in the property, for example, a squatter.

    5. An owner of the property where no one is resident.

     ""
  • lincroft1710
    lincroft1710 Posts: 18,916 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    1. You are not responsible for paying CT unless you are named on the CT bill. ..

     
    No.. You are responsible if you are responsible.  (If you name to council that the Archbishop of Canterbury is living there for CT in your home that doesn't mean he's got to pay, does it..)

    see
    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/council-tax/paying-council-tax/

    "" The hierarchy of liability is:
    1. A resident owner-occupier who owns either the leasehold or freehold of all or part of the property.

    2. A resident tenant.

    3. A resident who lives in the property and who is a licensee - this means that they’re not a tenant, but have permission to stay there.

    4. Any resident living in the property, for example, a squatter.

    5. An owner of the property where no one is resident.

     ""
    My reply was specific to the OP's situation. She is not responsible for paying CT as there is already a resident owner-occupier. I am well aware of the hierarchy of liability. 

    Your comment about the Archbishop of Canterbury does not make sense 
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • Bookworm105
    Bookworm105 Posts: 2,016 Forumite
    1,000 Posts First Anniversary Name Dropper
    edited 18 February at 4:41PM
    depends on the attitude of his council if they find out your domestic arrangements.

    you do not have to be an owner to become liable for CT, you simply have to be "resident" (point 4 in post above)

    the situation for unmarried partners who each retain a property in their sole name but live as a couple is subject to interpretation of what is meant by "main home"
    As you imply your London pad is for work purposes one assumes you are resident there for Monday - Thursday nights? If you work from home, where do you do that? London, or his pad?

    However, where you spend most of your time is not the single deciding factor. Bottom line is will the council become aware of you and bother to investigate? Will someone dob you in? 
    There is a lot of case law which examines many aspects of the usage of a property to establish it is the "main" home or a "secondary" home.
    Ultimately, unmarried with a child in tow would be a huge factor since home is where the kid is.

Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.1K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.6K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.1K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177K Life & Family
  • 257.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.