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Pension tax query
Dear all,
Please can you help me with my query. It appears that a number of independent financial planners/tax advisers I have approached are unsure how to answer this query. Your guidance would be very much appreciated.
- Mr is deceased and passed on his pension arrangements to his wife.
- Mr passed away 20th December 2020 he was not older than 75 years old.
- Mrs received 50% of his DB final salary pension scheme and all of his DC scheme.
- She took the DC scheme as a lump sum on the 29th May 2024. This amount was £1,129,559.80.
- She continues to receive monthly DB scheme payments of c.£2,300 per month.
- The DB scheme was tested against lifetime allowance on the 31st October 2010. The amount vested was £1,009,142.
- When Mr retired he did receive a lump sum of £237,438.31.
- Mr had Individual Protection 2014 in place of £1,454,224.45
- Mrs has always been and will continue to be an additional rate taxpayer.
The question:
- Will Mrs have any tax liability’s a result of the above?
Comments
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Well the low hanging fruit is the £2300 DB pension - taxable as income.
The DC lump sum sounds tax free but there is something about 2 years nagging away in my mind.
Mr was obviously very prescient if he foresaw the abolition of the LTA.0 -
It seems I should have had something else nagging as well - the Lump Sum and Death Benefit Allowance which I guess is Mr's 2014 protection figure but I am not sure how you measure the DB pension for that calculation.
I'll shut up now,0 -
No there is no tax liability.MCwW1986 said:Dear all,
Please can you help me with my query. It appears that a number of independent financial planners/tax advisers I have approached are unsure how to answer this query. Your guidance would be very much appreciated.
- Mr is deceased and passed on his pension arrangements to his wife.
- Mr passed away 20th December 2020 he was not older than 75 years old.
- Mrs received 50% of his DB final salary pension scheme and all of his DC scheme.
- She took the DC scheme as a lump sum on the 29th May 2024. This amount was £1,129,559.80.
- She continues to receive monthly DB scheme payments of c.£2,300 per month.
- The DB scheme was tested against lifetime allowance on the 31st October 2010. The amount vested was £1,009,142.
- When Mr retired he did receive a lump sum of £237,438.31.
- Mr had Individual Protection 2014 in place of £1,454,224.45
- Mrs has always been and will continue to be an additional rate taxpayer.
The question:
- Will Mrs have any tax liability’s a result of the above?
There is no lifetime allowance anymore, and the relevant figure is the Lump Sum Death Benefit Allowance, usually £1,073,100 but due to IP2014 in this case is £1,425,224.
Mr has used £237,438 of this when he took a lump sum from his DB pension at retirement in 2010, when the lifetime allowance was £1.8m. Therefore Mr has used 13.19% of his LSDBA and has 86.81%remaining.
86.81% of £1,425,224 is £1,237,254. The DC lump sum taken was £1,129,559 so there is an excess of the LSDBA of £107,695 still remaining.
N.b. - If this was formal advice I would be asking someone to double check this - be warned!
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