New build: Plaster and paint en-suite costs

collinsca

Hi

I live in a new build (been built about 6 years, we have lived here 3).

In the en-suite, the tape has blown and we have some paint cracks in the walls.

I have been told this is because the walls/ceiling were not plastered.

So, I am getting some quotes to:

-Plaster all walls and ceiling and
-Paint all walls and ceiling
(including all materials and labour).

Would appreciate anyone in the know about what sort of price you would expect to pay a work-person to do a job like this.

Thanks!

ThisIsWeird

Yes, looks like tape-and-fill rather than a full skim.
But, nothing inherently wrong with that, provided it's done properly - which it presumably wasn't in places.
Also, it's quite susceptible to being affected by damp, and a less-than-perfectly ventilated bathroom during showering would be a prime candidate.
(Mil moved into a bungie a couple of years back, and sil took over some washing to tumble-dry. The TD is in the wet room which has an extractor, but the clothes were seemingly so dripping wet that the resulting moisture was running down the walls. After it had all cleared, I noticed the wall-to-ceiling tape had lifted in many places, just like yours...)
This is surely very fixable - I'd probably use a building PVA (Ie waterproof) or even SBR to brush and adhere that tape back into place - or use fresh tape - followed by a thin filler skim over it to feather it into the surfaces. A light sanding and it should be perfect.
Then use proper bathroom paint, and ensure the extractor is working properly.
A couple of £undred as opposed to a £k+ to fix? That's an awkward room to skim - it's small, but a lot of tricky work.
Personally, I'd be asking recommended P&Ds to look at this first, and see how confident they are they can fix it without a full reskim.

collinsca

ThisIsWeird said:

Yes, looks like tape-and-fill rather than a full skim.
But, nothing inherently wrong with that, provided it's done properly - which it presumably wasn't in places.
Also, it's quite susceptible to being affected by damp, and a less-than-perfectly ventilated bathroom during showering would be a prime candidate.
(Mil moved into a bungie a couple of years back, and sil took over some washing to tumble-dry. The TD is in the wet room which has an extractor, but the clothes were seemingly so dripping wet that the resulting moisture was running down the walls. After it had all cleared, I noticed the wall-to-ceiling tape had lifted in many places, just like yours...)
This is surely very fixable - I'd probably use a building PVA (Ie waterproof) or even SBR to brush and adhere that tape back into place - or use fresh tape - followed by a thin filler skim over it to feather it into the surfaces. A light sanding and it should be perfect.
Then use proper bathroom paint, and ensure the extractor is working properly.
A couple of £undred as opposed to a £k+?

Thank you for the view and cost estimate.

I have been quoted £900 to do the full job- which seems a lot.
My workman did a fix job a year back but tape has blown again and he says as it is not plastered then it will continue to do so- and I do want a longer term fix.

stuart45

Although paper tape performs better than scrim in most areas, damp places like bathrooms need scrim. I'd agree with TIW, if tape and fill is done properly there's no problem. In the UK it's often not done as well as in the USA where the method originated.

ThisIsWeird

collinsca said:

Thank you for the view and cost estimate.

I have been quoted £900 to do the full job- which seems a lot.
My workman did a fix job a year back but tape has blown again and he says as it is not plastered then it will continue to do so- and I do want a longer term fix.

My £igures were pulled out of the air - I have no idea of actual costs. 

Tbh, £900 for a full reskim sounds good - it's a tricky, awkward, and messy job. It's a small room, but more complex than a larger boxy room.

This quote was from a plasterer? Have you asked just P&Ds? Some repairs, filling, and general making-good is part of the PD remit, and good P&Ds should be very experienced in finding the best solutions to different situations like this.

It seems nuts to me that tape cannot be used perfectly successfully in a bathroom. As a DIYer, I am near 100% confident that I could sort this, and it wouldn't be difficult. (But, DIYers are more likely to use out-t'box solutions).

collinsca

ThisIsWeird said:

collinsca said:

Thank you for the view and cost estimate.

I have been quoted £900 to do the full job- which seems a lot.
My workman did a fix job a year back but tape has blown again and he says as it is not plastered then it will continue to do so- and I do want a longer term fix.

My £igures were pulled out of the air - I have no idea of actual costs. 

Tbh, £900 for a full reskim sounds good - it's a tricky, awkward, and messy job. It's a small room, but more complex than a larger boxy room.

This quote was from a plasterer? Have you asked just P&Ds? Some repairs, filling, and general making-good is part of the PD remit, and good P&Ds should be very experienced in finding the best solutions to different situations like this.

It seems nuts to me that tape cannot be used perfectly successfully in a bathroom. As a DIYer, I am near 100% confident that I could sort this, and it wouldn't be difficult. (But, DIYers are more likely to use out-t'box solutions).

Thanks.this was a quote from a handyman who gets a plasterer to do plastering and then he does the painting.
Haven’t sought a second quote yet.

ThisIsWeird

collinsca said:

ThisIsWeird said:

collinsca said:

Thank you for the view and cost estimate.

I have been quoted £900 to do the full job- which seems a lot.
My workman did a fix job a year back but tape has blown again and he says as it is not plastered then it will continue to do so- and I do want a longer term fix.

My £igures were pulled out of the air - I have no idea of actual costs. 

Tbh, £900 for a full reskim sounds good - it's a tricky, awkward, and messy job. It's a small room, but more complex than a larger boxy room.

This quote was from a plasterer? Have you asked just P&Ds? Some repairs, filling, and general making-good is part of the PD remit, and good P&Ds should be very experienced in finding the best solutions to different situations like this.

It seems nuts to me that tape cannot be used perfectly successfully in a bathroom. As a DIYer, I am near 100% confident that I could sort this, and it wouldn't be difficult. (But, DIYers are more likely to use out-t'box solutions).

Thanks.this was a quote from a handyman who gets a plasterer to do plastering and then he does the painting.
Haven’t sought a second quote yet.

I think worth asking specialist P&Ds, too.

(My 'good' reference to the £900 quote is based on not much - I'm out of touch on prices, tbh...)

Grenage

Those pictures look more like poor paint adhesion to me.  Our bathroom had the same issue, lack of a mist coat.  It can start to peel outwards as soon as any moisture gets behind the paint.

I scraped the loose paint away, filled, mist coated and repainted.  It will be obvious if it's poor adhesion when you start scraping the paint - a lot of the surrounding paint will come with it.